[llvm-dev] Mailing List Status Update

[pawel k. via llvm-dev]

Hi,
Nice idea. Will make talks realtime. Not sure it supports commit and review
over email. Consider having introduce yourself channel etc. Consider
whether run it on THEIR or YOUR servers. There is some competition etc. I
mite lookup some projects: zulip comes to mind.

Best regards,
Pawel


wt., 1.06.2021, 22:51 użytkownik Tom Stellard via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> napisał:

> Hi,
>
> We recently[1] ran into some issues with the mailing lists that caused
> us to disable automatic approval of subscriptions.  Over the past few
> months, the LLVM Foundation Board of Directors have been investigating
> solutions to this issue and are recommending that the project move its
> discussion forum from mailman to Discourse[2].
>
> The proposed migration plan is to move the discussion lists (e.g *-dev,
> *-users lists) to Discourse as soon as possible.  The commit email lists
> (*-commits lists) will remain on mailman until a not-yet-determined date
> in the future, after which they will be replaced by something else.
> Some commit lists alternatives include Discourse and GitHub commit
> comments (but there may be others).
>
> Here are the reasons why the LLVM Foundation Board of Directors is
> recommending this change:
>
> - The LLVM project discussion lists cannot be adequately maintained by our
>    current volunteer infrastructure staff and without changes we run the
>    risk of a major outage.
>
> - We are able to make this change without significant impact to user's or
>    developer's daily workflows because Discourse supports email
> subscriptions
>    and posting (NOTE: if you are concerned that your workflow may be
> impacted
>    by this change, please contact the Infrastructure Working Group[3], so
>    they can help test your workflow with Discourse.)
>
> - Discourse gives us additional features that will benefit the community:
>    - Easy to signup and subscribe to categories
>    - Better moderation tools.
>    - Web-based user interface.
>    - Ability to send announcements to multiple categories to avoid having
> to
>      cross-post community wide announcements.
>
> - A subset of the community (MLIR) have been experimenting with Discourse
>    for over a year and are able to provide feedback about this experience
>    to the Board of Directors.
>
> We did also consider one alternative, which was migrating our lists to a
> mailman hosting service.  However, we concluded that with all the work it
> would take to migrate our lists to another service, it would be better
> if we moved to a service (like Discourse) that provided more features
> than what we have now.
>
> We understand that moving to Discourse is a change for the community and
> that people may be worried about this having a negative impact on their
> participation in the project.  As mentioned above, we believe that this
> change can be done without significant impact to anyone’s workflows.
> If you disagree, please contact the Infrastructure Working Group, to
> document the impact to your workflow, so we can work together to find
> a solution for your issue.
>
> If you have any other questions or comments you can raise them on this
> thread and please keep criticisms constructive and on topic.
>
>
> LLVM Foundation Board of Directors
>
> [1] https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2021-March/149027.html
> [2] https://www.discourse.org/
> [3] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-iwg
>
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