[llvm-dev] Suggestion to Stop Cross Posting Discussions

Chris Bieneman via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Jul 11 15:34:24 PDT 2016


> On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Chandler Carruth via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:28 AM Renato Golin via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> On 7 July 2016 at 03:39, Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com> wrote:
>> > Sorry, I meant to say that issues like “move to github” would be on topic for the list.  The addition of a new mailing list certainly doesn’t affect how key decisions in the project are made.
>> 
>> Perfect! I'm glad everyone is in agreement. I think it makes sense to
>> move those things out of the dev list and to make it clear that, if
>> you care about the project/s, you should be on that list. :)
> 
> FWIW, I'm not in agreement.
> 
> I think having yet another mailing list is a dramatically worse solution than simply fixing our mailing list system to allow subscribers to any of the lists post to all of the lists.

The big problem I see with this is you'd also need to modify the mailing system to ensure that all replies on the thread CC the off-list people who contribute to it. That gets really complicated when threads go through renaming or get munged by mail clients not respecting MIME headers.

I think an "llvm-project" mailing list that implicitly includes everyone on all the "*-dev" lists is a reasonably safe solution to the problem, even if it does mean one more mailing list to filter.

-Chris

> 
> I've used a wide variety of email clients over the years and they've all been capable of ensuring I only get one copy of emails sent to multiple mailing lists.
> 
> That said, if everyone is both adamant that we cannot simply solve the technological problem here and we must do *something*, then I'll tolerate yet another mailing list.
> 
> I suspect it will mostly result in an increase in the amount of email we all receive because of the number of "heads up" and "go look at this other list" emails that become required due to people not realizing they need to subscribe to this extra list. =[
> 
> -Chandler
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