[llvm-foundation] Voting

[Renato Golin via llvm-foundation]

I'm writing up a summary with everything that was said on the list. We may
get a round of reviews before we put the survey up, as I don't want people
arguing about the content on the survey itself.

I'll be submitting as soon as I'm back in Cambridge.

Cheers,
Renato
On 15 Jul 2016 7:36 p.m., "Tanya Lattner" <tanyalattner at llvm.org> wrote:

>
> > On Jul 5, 2016, at 4:25 AM, Renato Golin via llvm-foundation <
> llvm-foundation at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that the GitHub proposal is finally getting into shape, and
> > it'll be *a lot* simpler than I was expecting.
> >
> > Now, it's time to start thinking about how we do the "voting". In
> > quotes because Tanya's suggestion of survey is a lot better than
> > simple voting, and folks seem to agree, so we should go with it.
> >
> > Tanya,
> >
> > I was thinking "radio" buttons with a few options and a field for
> > further notes on the reasons. The radio will help us identify raw
> > numbers, the reasons will help us identify the strength of each
> > individual choice.
> >
> > I'm divided if we should have an "other" option, or just go with
> > "choose the closest option". I prefer the latter...
> >
> > A draft of the form would be:
> >
> > Name:
> > Email:
> > OSS Project/Company/University (if any):
> >
>
> Maybe add: how many developers do you have working for you or with you…
> this might capture large groups of people that don’t want to all write
> feedback?
>
> > How do you use LLVM? (choose the closest option)
> > 1. I don't use LLVM, but am interested in its development.
> > 2. I have used LLVM in a pet-project / academic work, but don't use it
> anymore.
> > 3. I use LLVM on a pet-project / academic work.
> > 4. I use LLVM for a production product / OSS project that we develop /
> > distribute.
> > 5. LLVM is a major part of one or more products / projects, which
> > support a bigger product line / OSS distribution.
> > 6. I am a core developer of LLVM, responsible for one or more parts of
> > the compiler / sub-projects (code owners, top committers,
> > infrastructure).
> >
>
> I would remove #6 and separate it into a new question about what the
> person contributes to LLVM. Either open text box, or radio button list.. I
> really want to capture the person’s involvement and contributions to LLVM
> (in technical or non-technical ways..). I think its equally as important as
> how they are using it. If the majority who fill out the survey are using it
> but never contribute anything back.. thats an interesting situation..
>
> > Please, expand on your usage, as accurate as you can, with links:
> > <text field>
> >
> > How would moving to GitHub impact your usage of LLVM? (choose the
> > closest option)
> > 1. I already use Git, little to no impact foreseen.
> > 2. I use a mixture of Git and Svn, and some impact will be felt.
> > 3. I use mostly Svn, so we'll have big impact on our productivity.
> > 4. I cannot work with / don't want to move to Git.
> >
> > If you chose 2~4, please explain your reasons here:
> > <text field>
>
> Sounds good.
>
> I would also have a text box for open concerns or things that may not be
> considered in the proposal.
>
> >
> > The data could be potentially shared, raw, with the community (maybe
> > the text only upon request, in private communication), so respondents
> > are expected to not share any private information. Not sharing it
> > could potentially invalidate any decision taken based on the data and
> > lead to a fractured community. But companies that have secretive
> > products can be vague, and due to the nature of the LLVM community, we
> > should be sensitive to that when analysing the data and drawing
> > conclusions.
>
> If a company is using LLVM for a secret project.. there isn’t much we can
> do about it. The will have to figure out how to communicate their concerns
> without divulging sensitive information.
>
> I think depending upon the results, we can decide how best to present the
> data.
>
> >
> > I'm wiling to write up the proposal and do the data analysis (use vs.
> > impact) and announce the result of the survey. Though, I don't know
> > what's the best way to do the survey (Google forms? SurveyMonkey?
> > something else?), and the Foundation's help would be nice. :)
>
> Thank you for volunteering to spearhead this. I would also suggest having
> a webpage that clearly explains the plan, pros/cons, and then link to
> survey for people to fill out. Some of this has been on the list, but lets
> put it somewhere else easily accessible.
>
> I think that anyway is fine (google forms or survey monkey). I used survey
> monkey for the LLVM Dev Meeting and it worked fine. The Foundation can
> support costs and help with creation.
>
> -Tanya
>
> >
> > cheers,
> > --renato
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