[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] Mailing List Status Update

Johannes Doerfert via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Jun 22 10:58:13 PDT 2021

On 6/22/21 10:52 AM, Hal Finkel via llvm-dev wrote:
> On 6/21/21 16:59, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL via llvm-dev wrote:
>>     Are we really going to replace email with Discourse when we can
>>     see that
>>     almost nobody likes using Discourse?
>> Metcalfe's law - people are going to tend to use the medium that they 
>> are able to reach the audience on, but not necessarily because it's 
>> superior.  Mailing lists have the benefit of long-term incumbency.
>> Email has a certain level of “omnipresence” and convenience. 
>> Including the superb interoperability among (pretty much) all of the 
>> clients and platforms.
>> I think I would prefer maintaining the status quo but if I woke up 
>> tomorrow and the conversation had moved to Discourse I would join it 
>> there.  Regardless of whether it had moved by mandate or popular 
>> adoption.  I suspect others may feel similar and therefore the 
>> traffic is not a good metric of preference.
>> True. But it may indicate a certain level of acceptance and 
>> convenience. Would one need a “dedicated Discourse app” to access and 
>> participate in the discussions?
> One can use Discourse via email, see 
> https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279 
> - this is one of the major factors that was considered when comparing 
> the different potential options.


~ Johannes

>  -Hal
>> Would that app run smoothly on all the platforms the current list 
>> members use (that includes how much space it would require, perhaps 
>> people already maxed the storage capacity of their mobile devices?)? 
>> How would people include bug reports there – taking screenshots…?
>> People kept using email because it seems to work the best.
>> I understand that LLVM dev’s aren’t crazy about maintaining mailing 
>> lists – but probably a hosted mailing list solution would be better 
>> than moving to a totally different platform.
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