[llvm-dev] Fwd: RFC: Moving toward Discord and Discourse for LLVM's discussions

Zachary Turner via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Nov 19 10:30:20 PST 2019

  What I'm curious about is how often that level of control over moderation
has been needed in the past with our IRC.  I certainly agree that it's
missing many moderation features, I'm just not yet convinced that we need
those moderation features.

Redactions (Removing Messages) - We can't do that with IRC either
Managing Abusive Display Names / Avatars - We can kick people from the Slack
Power levels / Roles - IRC has this in very limited capacity, but I don't
believe we've ever needed anything other than "normal user" and "admin".
Slack has that.
Kicking and banning users - Slack has this
(I don't know what the rest of the topics are about under Moderating Rooms)

Consenting to Terms and Conditions - IRC doesn't have this
Removing users, rooms and content - Slack Admins can do this
Banning clients by IP - We probably don't want to do this anyway as it
could cause an entire organization to be banned

Reporting bad content  - Discord doesn't do this
Blocking users  - This one seems valid, Discord does allow you to do this
and so does IRC.  I actually don't know if Slack does.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:03 AM Matthew Hodgson via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> Slack's community moderation features are pretty terrible - it's simply
> not set up for managing public-facing communities; it's set up for managing
> private workplace team collaboration.  The best way to try to explain the
> features which are missing are to look at something like the Matrix
> moderation guide (https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation/); many of
> these features are missing in Slack.
> On 19/11/2019 17:51, Zachary Turner via llvm-dev wrote:
> I suspected it may be related to Discord's heavy emphasis on role-based
> permissions, but it would be good to get an official answer.  Slack
> definitely does have administrators, and Administrators can kick people out
> of the slack, which...  might be sufficient?  I don't know . From a
> usability standpoint, Discord is vastly inferior to Slack so I think it's
> worth doing this comparison
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 7:38 AM Finkel, Hal J. <hfinkel at anl.gov> wrote:
>> On 11/19/19 9:09 AM, Zachary Turner via llvm-dev wrote:
>> Note there is also Slack, which does not have these problems.  Not sure
>> why that keeps being overlooked
>> My understanding is this is because Slack does not have good moderation
>> tools. I'm unfamiliar with further details in this regard.
>>  -Hal
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