<div dir="ltr"><div> What I'm curious about is how often that level of control over moderation has been needed in the past with our IRC. I certainly agree that it's missing many moderation features, I'm just not yet convinced that we need those moderation features.<div><br></div><div>Redactions (Removing Messages) - We can't do that with IRC either</div><div>Managing Abusive Display Names / Avatars - We can kick people from the Slack</div><div>Power levels / Roles - IRC has this in very limited capacity, but I don't believe we've ever needed anything other than "normal user" and "admin". Slack has that.</div><div>Kicking and banning users - Slack has this</div><div>(I don't know what the rest of the topics are about under Moderating Rooms)</div><div><br></div><div>Consenting to Terms and Conditions - IRC doesn't have this<br>Removing users, rooms and content - Slack Admins can do this<br>Banning clients by IP - We probably don't want to do this anyway as it could cause an entire organization to be banned<br><br></div><div>Reporting bad content - Discord doesn't do this<br>Blocking users - This one seems valid, Discord does allow you to do this and so does IRC. I actually don't know if Slack does.<br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:03 AM Matthew Hodgson via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Slack's community moderation features are pretty terrible - it's
simply not set up for managing public-facing communities; it's set
up for managing private workplace team collaboration. The best
way to try to explain the features which are missing are to look
at something like the Matrix moderation guide (<a href="https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation/" target="_blank">https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation/</a>);
many of these features are missing in Slack.</p>
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emphasis on role-based permissions, but it would be good to get
an official answer. Slack definitely does have administrators,
and Administrators can kick people out of the slack, which...
might be sufficient? I don't know . From a usability
standpoint, Discord is vastly inferior to Slack so I think it's
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have these problems. Not sure why that keeps being
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<p>My understanding is this is because Slack does not have
good moderation tools. I'm unfamiliar with further details
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