[llvm-dev] Resuming the discussion of establishing an LLVM code of conduct

[Renato Golin via llvm-dev]

On 6 May 2016 at 22:21, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> How many is "many, many", actually? How many of these are really in fear, how many are just trying to impose their mindset without actually planning to contribute in earnest, how many are so fearful that they should really seek professional help?
>
> And this is illustrating my point. I don’t really appreciate the joke about seeking professional help. Given how many hundreds of community members we have, and there are maybe 30 responding on this thread? I have spoken to many more at LLVM Dev Meetings who are in favor of a Code of Conduct and I suspect many are fearful of responding here.

I don't think this was a joke at all...


>> Harassment is indeed universal.
>> The ideas about how to best deal that with are not.
>
> I’m pretty positive that harassment of any kind should not be tolerated or allowed.
> I’m not sure how there can be different ideas on how to deal with it.

I'm confused...

Are you implying that everyone will agree on exactly what is and what
is not harassment? And consequently they'll also agree on exactly how
to deal with each individual situation?

I know you understand that there are different situations (you have
said as much), but this makes me think that you're assuming that
everyone should agree with your analysis of every case.

This obviously goes against any attempt to either be inclusive or
extend our community, and would, in my view, go against the proposed
CoC.

cheers,
--renato