[llvm-dev] We really need more community involvement with GSoC

Tue Apr 5 12:54:35 PDT 2016

Hi,
Has there been any update on this office-hour idea?
I'm just starting to get my feet wet with LLVM and this seems like an
amazing potential resource for getting answers!
Regards,
Aditi Dixit
Would be a really helpful resource for beginners

On Wednesday 23 March 2016, Philip Reames via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

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> On 03/20/2016 12:20 PM, John Criswell via llvm-dev wrote:
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> On 3/19/16 6:26 AM, Bruce Hoult via llvm-dev wrote:
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> I work for one of those "top companies", but LLVM is only one of the
> back-ends I'm working with so I have only pretty narrow knowledge of it
> (but ok knowledge of compilers in general, I hope).
>
> I'm trying to post easy to understand answers to those beginner questions
> when I have time (there was one yesterday, about constant evaluating things
> like sqrt() in the front end).
>
> One concern I have is that although these basic questions often have no
> answers on the mailing list, any number of people might well have replied
> to them privately, in an effort to both be helpful to the questioner, and
> also to "maintain the signal to noise ratio" of the mailing list.
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> When I reply to a question, I reply to the list.  That ensures that a)
> everyone knows if a question has been answered and b) it allows others with
> a similar question to see the answer.
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> Same.
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> On a side note, I think our FAQ may need some updating; we've gotten
> similar questions over the years which I should have added to a FAQ but (to
> date) have not.
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> Wait, we have a FAQ?  (Mostly joking, I know if it, just never seen anyone
> reference it.)
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> Should we try to encourage folks to update the FAQ and reply with a link
> rather than directly answering questions on llvm-dev?
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> Regards,
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> John Criswell
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> Of course I don't know if this is really happening or not, but if it is
> then the wasted duplication of effort is probably worse than a few extra
> messages on the list. Which is why I copy the list as well.
>
> The "office hours" idea would definitely help with all this, if beginners
> can in fact be encouraged to use it.
>
> I'd probably use it myself, as I'm a novice to many aspects of LLVM.
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> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:47 PM, vivek pandya via llvm-dev <
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> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org');>> wrote:
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>> Note : I do not mean to compare or criticize any organization. This is
>> based on my experience.
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>> Dear Community,
>>
>> I have subscribed llvm-dev list for last 6 months and I follow most of
>> the thread when it makes sense to me. I have observed that some times some
>> mails do not get any kind of response. Mostly novice students and some one
>> trying to use LLVM in the research have many questions.
>> I respect all community members and I understand that working for top
>> companies or colleges keep them very busy. So when I go on IRC same things
>> happens ( I keep my self up late night to sync with timezone so I get many
>> people to ask on IRC).
>>  Personally if I stretch my self and read some older mail chains, I am
>> able to get answers to my questions 80% of time, but some time I just get
>> stuck and some times to understand output and "why it has happen so" a
>> novice may require help from you people.
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>> I have just one suggestion that is not particular to GSoC but it applies
>> in general. Actually Drupal.org uses this idea. See this
>> <https://www.drupal.org/core-office-hours>
>> https://www.drupal.org/core-office-hours
>> Every Monday and Wednesday they keep a session on IRC  (just textual
>> chat) dedicated to novice student may be an hour long or so. To keep main
>> channel undisturbed we may have a separate channel. (or slack.com )  The
>> time chosen for both days are very different so that they can cover may
>> time zones. 2 or 3 experienced community members attends this session and
>> answers to the each kind of questions from participant. This will help
>> students and researchers very much. Specially if they are not able to
>> progress by their own.
>> I have been benefited from this on Drupal. LLVM is more complex code base
>> than Drupal. And I believe that your 60 minutes may save their days.
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>> Sincerely,
>> Vivek
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