[LLVMdev] Question about local variables

Nick Lewycky nlewycky at google.com
Mon Oct 24 15:43:17 PDT 2011


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On 24 October 2011 13:20, Ryan Taylor <ryta1203 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nick,
>
>  Thanks, this is not really viable as I'd have to check every single
> instruction like this, seems like there is a lot of overhead associated with
> this solution.


I don't know what problem you're solving?

Nick

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Nick Lewycky <nlewycky at google.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24 October 2011 10:31, Ryan Taylor <ryta1203 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nick,
>>>
>>>   Is there a clean way to tell the difference between dst and src
>>> operands in operations without assignment "=" (ie, store)?
>>>
>>
>> StoreInst has getValueOperand() and getPointerOperand(). See
>> http://llvm.org/doxygen/de/d9c/classllvm_1_1StoreInst.html .
>>
>> We don't print out a name for instructions that are void typed, since
>> there's no sense trying to refer to them again. You can test for that with
>> Inst->getType()->isVoidTy().
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ryan Taylor <ryta1203 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nick,
>>>>
>>>>   I forgot to thank you, thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Nick Lewycky <nicholas at mxc.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Ah, forgot the -o, thanks, silly mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   So how would you extract "add" from the instruction "%A"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I->getOpcodeName().
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Yes, this is sort of what I am trying to do. The instnamer works
>>>>>> fine
>>>>>> for the local variables and I already had the constants sorted out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Nick Lewycky <nicholas at mxc.ca
>>>>>> <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Ryan Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           Also, I forgot to mention I had no luck with instnamer, it
>>>>>>        still left
>>>>>>        the local variables as "%slotNum", it didn't name them, unless
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>        used
>>>>>>        -instnamer wrong:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        opt -instnamer <file.bc> file2.bc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Almost, use -o to specify output: opt -instnamer file.bc -o
>>>>>> file2.bc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Those are the ones I am refering to. The description for
>>>>>>        instnamer says that it names unnamed instructions (not
>>>>>>        operands), or am I confused on the terminology here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Ah, I see. The operand of an instruction is some other Value, but
>>>>>>    it's not a subclass of Value like Instruction is. Allow me to
>>>>>> elaborate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Here's some example IR:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      declare i32 @test(i32 %arg) {
>>>>>>        %A = add i32 %arg, 1
>>>>>>        %B = mul i32 %A, 2
>>>>>>        ret i32 %B
>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The llvm::Value hierarchy contains Instruction, Argument and
>>>>>>    Constant (among others). The operands of %A are "i32 %arg" and "i32
>>>>>>    1" where %arg is an Argument and 1 is a Constant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    So, saying that "but it doesn't name operands" is moot, because it
>>>>>>    goes through and names all the arguments and instructions, which
>>>>>>    means that it's going to name all the operands -- except for
>>>>>> constants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Firstly, constants (like "i32 1") aren't allowed to have names.
>>>>>>    Secondly, some Constants (GlobalValues which includes functions and
>>>>>>    global variables) are allowed to have names, but the instnamer
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>    touch them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        For example, if I print out I->getName I get "add" not "x" or
>>>>>>        "y", but when I do Value *V = I->getOperands(loop) and then do
>>>>>>        V->getName, then it prints out the name of the operand. Am I
>>>>>>        going about this backwards? It sounds like it from the
>>>>>>        terminology you are using (calling an operand an instruction).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    If you have the Instruction* for "%A", then getName() will return
>>>>>>    "A", not "add". It may be the case that you have "%add = add i32
>>>>>>    %arg, 1" in which case it would return "add". :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    If you call %A->getOperand(0) then you'll get the Value* whose
>>>>>>    getName() returns "arg", and also you can cast pointer to
>>>>>> Argument*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        I don't mean to be contentious (as I really appreciate your
>>>>>> time
>>>>>>        and help) but apparently someone does use it, me. When going
>>>>>>        from source to source it's needed to keep track of the
>>>>>>        variables. Or am I missing something here too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Sure, no problem! I'm happy to explain how LLVM works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'm not sure what you mean when you say you're going
>>>>>>    source-to-source through LLVM. Are you taking a language (say C++)
>>>>>>    compiling it to LLVM IR, then trying to produce another language
>>>>>>    back out (say Javascript)? I would give up on trying to map the
>>>>>>    output variable names back to the input ones. Think of LLVM IR like
>>>>>>    you would x86 assembly, that information is long gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    If you mean that you're doing LLVM IR -> LLVM IR, then instead of
>>>>>>    names use the Value pointers directly. Like names, they refer to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>    values.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nick Lewycky <
>>>>>> nicholas at mxc.ca
>>>>>>        <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>
>>>>>>        <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            Ryan Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    Unfortunately this doesn't answer my question I
>>>>>>        don't think. It
>>>>>>                seems that -instnamer, as you mention, names the
>>>>>>        instructions
>>>>>>                but still
>>>>>>                does not name the local variables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            What other local variables are you referring to? When
>>>>>> AsmWriter
>>>>>>            prints "%y = add i32 %x, 1", the name of that add
>>>>>>        instruction is "y"
>>>>>>            and "x" is the name of another instruction or argument. If
>>>>>>        it has no
>>>>>>            name, the AsmWriter emits a number ("%0"), by counting from
>>>>>>        the top.
>>>>>>            The only other locals could be function arguments, and
>>>>>> instnamer
>>>>>>            names those too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    So there really is no way to do this shy of
>>>>>> creating (or
>>>>>>                basically
>>>>>>                copying) the API from AsmWriter (seems very dedundant
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>        me)?
>>>>>>                This seems
>>>>>>                like a large failing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            Correct, you'd have to copy that logic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            It's not a large failing because nobody uses names of
>>>>>>        non-globals
>>>>>>            for anything. When we want to refer to a value, we use the
>>>>>>        Value*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Nick Lewycky
>>>>>>        <nicholas at mxc.ca <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>
>>>>>>        <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>>
>>>>>>        <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>
>>>>>>        <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca <mailto:nicholas at mxc.ca>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    Ryan Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                        It looks like the AsmWriter is generating the
>>>>>> local
>>>>>>                variables
>>>>>>                        (SlotNum)s
>>>>>>                        on the fly in that file (AsmWriter.cpp), so is
>>>>>>        there any
>>>>>>                way at
>>>>>>                        all to
>>>>>>                        get this information from the operation itself,
>>>>>> via
>>>>>>                Instruction,
>>>>>>                        Value
>>>>>>                        or Type?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    Nope! As you noticed, they're created on the fly...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    ...when the Value or Type is anonymous. If you want
>>>>>>        them to be
>>>>>>                    persistent, values can have names via. the
>>>>>> setName()
>>>>>>        call. "opt
>>>>>>                    -instnamer" will name all your instructions, for
>>>>>>        example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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