[LLVMdev] [cfe-dev] Developer meeting videos up

[Chris Stockton]

+1 for releasing both videos and slides, "ScalarEvolution and Loop
Optimization" is my primary interest but surely would get around to the
others as well.

On Oct 19, 2009 10:05 AM, "Chris Lattner" <clattner at apple.com> wrote:

On Oct 19, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Ken Dyck wrote: > I'd also like to register my
disappointment that the...
With the developer meeting organizers.

> 2. Did the speakers from Apple sign the same agreements?
No, it turns out that they generally didn't because we didn't
anticipate a problem.  Even if they did, the speakers themselves don't
have authority to release this, they generally have to check with
their employers.

> 3. If the agreements were made with an organization other than > Apple, on
> what basis are the...
As I stated previously, we found out about this extremely late into
the process.  There is a high probability that at least some of the
slides will get released in time.

> 4. If the agreements were made with Apple, why?
n/a.

> 4a. Is there a need for the community to establish an independent > legal
> entity (similar to ...
I agree that a third party foundation would be useful for other
reasons, but this wouldn't help anything in this case.

My read of your position here is that you're coming at this from a
confused angle.  From my perspective, Apple has some just about
everything right w.r.t. developing LLVM in the open, contributing
code, fostering development etc.  The only major problem to date has
been around speakers at the developer meeting, which is a pretty minor
issue in the big picture, and still is an ongoing debate (so it isn't
a done deal).

Getting back to "it wouldn't help anything": if the Developer Meeting
were held elsewhere and if the current rule was still in place, it
would be very simple: there would be no Apple speakers because they
wouldn't be able to sign the form.  This doesn't seem to achieve your
goal of making those talks public.

-Chris

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