[PATCH] D13741: Introduce a *draft* of a code of conduct for the LLVM community and theassociated reporting guide.

[Renato Golin via llvm-commits]

rengolin added inline comments.

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+  were other witnesses besides you, please try to include them as well.
+* When and where the incident occurred. Please be as specific as possible.
+* Your account of what occurred. If there is a publicly available record (e.g.
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chandlerc wrote:
> rengolin wrote:
> > When related to witnesses, this is a cultural issue.
> > 
> > Unless there is a criminal investigation going, people in some countries (including the UK) feel *very* uncomfortable to be included in someone's else personal discussion. Doing so would clearly be marked as bullying and violate the CoC.
> > 
> > If we want people in other countries to also feel safe, we need to word in a way that they can understand their cultural issues will make them feel safe.
> I don't think there is a very useful way to avoid a report *privately* stating who that person recalls being present.
> 
> Their memory as relayed to tho committee is just that though: their memory. The committee is going to have to ask politely whether folks were involved or not. And even the discussion of who was involved, and any communication the committee does to them, *all* of that is (I think at least) clearly under the confidential and private clause. Not just from anyone, but even from the person who reported the issue. Until people give their express OK to have something said publicly, none of this should ever get shared.
> 
> Is that enough? (I genuinely don't know. I checked this some time ago with some folks from Europe, but I don't know how carefully they looked at this particular issue, or they may just not have concerns or thoughts about this.)
>From my experience in England, it is not enough to protect them from public discussions.

I had a few cases at my kids' school and workplaces (plural) where something wrong happened, I discussed with folks that I'd report via private whistle-blower policies, and they got *very* agitated and told me very convincingly to not mention their names in any instance.

Speaking to other people about this, it seems this is considered a severe breach of confidentiality. Since you're not their employer, this could even have legal complications. I would not go there if I were you.

I think the committee has to have access that it can, not that it thinks it needs. We really don't want to be breaching some people's individuality to protect other people's individuality.


http://reviews.llvm.org/D13741