[cfe-dev] [analyzer] Project to output SARIF

Gábor Horváth via cfe-dev cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Sep 17 17:43:04 PDT 2018


Hi Paul!

I was wondering what are the constraints with the plist format that makes
you want to output Sarif natively. I am not opposed to adding another
output format but if you miss something from the plist during conversion,
chances are good other consumers of the plist would find that information
useful. As far as I understand, the current plist format is not frozen in
any ways, so extending that is also an option (regardless of adding a new
output format or not ).

Regards,
Gabor

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 14:36, Artem Dergachev via cfe-dev <
cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> Hmm, this looks useful. I'd love to see how we perform compared to other
> tools and have a look at interesting false negatives that such
> comparison would be able to find, though i understand that this sort of
> comparisons are hard because different tools may report the same bug in
> different manners, on different lines of code, with different warnings
> and notes, so even if they provide it in the same format, matching them
> to each other automatically may be hard.
>
> Analyzer outputs are implemented by PathDiagnosticConsumer sub-classes,
> and it should be fairly straightforward to add a new sub-class. You need
> to handle different "diagnostic pieces" (events along the path,
> directions on how does the path run through the program, etc.) Please
> let us know if you think that the class is not receiving enough info to
> fill in everything you want to provide - we could probably provide it.
>
> As far as I understand, you want to eventually upstream your work. In
> this case I encourage you to start as early as possible (i.e., even if
> it's an empty implementation that emits empty files), by posting early
> prototypes on our Phabricator and then adding incremental patches on top
> of it, rather than wait until your code is finished. Essentially, LLVM
> development policy promotes run-time flags as branches and discourages
> huge pull-requests from distant forks because otherwise it's relatively
> easy to take a wrong turn. We'll be able to consult you on what do all
> these notes and events mean or on other stuff of ours. There have been
> recent changes in how consumers are handled, so please make sure you
> work with a recent clang.
>
>
> On 9/17/18 10:51 AM, Paul Anderson via cfe-dev wrote:
> > All:
> >
> > This is my first post to this list, so first, let me give a quick
> > introduction. I'm VP of Engineering at GrammaTech, where I am in
> > charge of an advanced static analysis tool named CodeSonar. It
> > primarily works for C and C++, but also for x86, x64 and ARM binaries.
> > There is a little overlap with what CSA does, but CodeSonar's strength
> > is in whole-program path-sensitive analysis for serious defects and
> > security vulnerabilities.
> >
> > I'm writing to let the community know of some work we will be doing
> > that should benefit everyone. I think I know the best way forward, but
> > I'd appreciate any words of wisdom and feedback on our approach.
> >
> > This work is funded by a government research project aimed at
> > modernizing open source static analysis tools. The project is named
> > STAMP (the official funding agency page, which is admittedly very
> > short on details, is here:
> > https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/csd-stamp.)
> >
> > There are several thrusts, but the piece I have been working on is
> > aimed at changing tools so that they can communicate more effectively
> > with each other. Ultimately there will be a protocol to allow tools to
> > exchange information actively, but the first part is simpler and
> > fairly straightforward. We will be modifying tools so that they can
> > output results in SARIF, a standard output format for static analysis
> > tools:
> > https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=sarif. The
> > standard was first conceived at Microsoft. I'm on the TC, along with
> > representatives from other tool vendors and interested users.
> >
> > We've already written an adapter for CSA that can take plist-format
> > output and convert it to SARIF, and we plan to make that available
> > shortly. However due to constraints on what is expressible with that
> > format, we feel we can do a much better job if we change the analyzer
> > to output SARIF natively, controlled by (say) -analyzer-output=sarif.
> >
> > We've done some prototyping of this on a fork and have it rolling over
> > nicely. There's more to be done though before we are ready to submit
> > anything for review. We've read all the material on contributing and
> > will follow those guidelines as best we can. However, if anyone can
> > think of a reason why we should do anything differently, or if there
> > are particular pitfalls we should be aware of, I would greatly
> > appreciate that input.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > -Paul
> >
> >
>
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