[cfe-dev] Status of SEH?

[Daniel Berlin]

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Hal Finkel <hfinkel at anl.gov> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Berlin" <dannyb at google.com>
>> To: "Alp Toker" <alp at nuanti.com>
>> Cc: cfe-dev at cs.uiuc.edu
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:57:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [cfe-dev] Status of SEH?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Alp Toker <alp at nuanti.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 30/01/2014 22:06, Daniel Berlin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Actually, the policy actually says the right thing, you removed  a
>> >> sentence, which says:
>> >> "Please contact the oversight group for more details."
>> >
>> >
>> > To be clear, I didn't remove this sentence -- it's some way down in
>> > the
>> > paragraph and pertains to receiving details from the oversight
>> > group,
>> > whereas the section about providing notification pertains to "us",
>> > the LLVM
>> > community.
>> >
>> > This is grammatically clear and unambiguous so if it's not the
>> > intention,
>> > that needs to be reworded.
>>
>> Don't take this the wrong way, but most people would still understand
>> that this probably means "don't talk about patents except to the
>> oversight group".  There are roughly no open source projects where
>> the
>> rule is "talk about patents all you like on random development
>> mailing
>> lists"
>>
>
> To be fair, as I read it, the "Please contact the oversight group for more details." applies only to the situation discussed in the previous sentence (dealing with the "If you or your employer own the rights to a patent and would like to contribute..." situation). If we expect that all patent discussions, regardless of the relationship to the rights holders, will take place *only* with the oversight group, then we need to amend the current wording to make that unquestionably clear.

We expect that contributors will notify the oversight group if they
have patent concerns.
We expect that otherwise, patent discussions will not take place on
the public development mailing lists.

I'd be glad to see wording someone wants to use here (i didn't write
the current language) :)