[clang] [clang][docs] assert.h is not a good candidate for a textual header (PR #165057)

Ian Anderson via cfe-commits cfe-commits at lists.llvm.org
Mon Oct 27 15:55:18 PDT 2025


ian-twilightcoder wrote:

> > Sure, but if you can't include `<assert.h>` from a modular header, then that basically means `<assert.h>` can't itself be a modular header.
> 
> What do you mean by "modular header" here? The terminology I'm familiar with considers textual headers and modular headers to be mutually exclusive -- modular headers are the ones that don't (intend to) depend on the state of translation at the point at which they're entered, and textual headers are the ones that do. I agree (using that definition) that `<assert.h>` can't (or at least, shouldn't) be a modular header.

We've (Apple) found `textual header`s to be very limited in practice. Basically they can't cause a declaration to exist in multiple modules. Swift will see those declarations as distinct because the module name is part of the type/function name, and as distinct things they're by definition incompatible. Sometimes it kind of works out through the type merging that clang does, but mostly it doesn't.

What even _should_ happen if modules A and B include <assert.h>, but B defines NDEBUG before doing so? If I just import A and B and don't include <assert.h> myself, which definition of `assert` do I see?


> The purpose of `textual header` declarations is to associate a header with a module so that it is found and its inclusion is permitted by strict `use` checking rules. (There was an idea that we might also store a pretokenized form of textual headers, but that never actually happened.) We want a `use LibC;` to permit including `assert.h`, and don't want it to be a modular import, so it should be listed as a textual header.

I thought even strict `use` checking rules don't complain about headers that aren't covered by any module, it only flags module imports that aren't listed?

> > `<modular_header_that_has_an_assert.h>` doesn't usually start its life as a modular header, it just has an inline function with an assert in it, and doesn't expect its behavior to change and start ignoring NDEBUG when it becomes a modular header. In a single module world, fine `<assert.h>` can function the same as textual, but when you add in a second world it starts behaving differently with and without modules.
> 
> I'm not following something here -- I think you're suggesting that you'd see some kind of difference when `<assert.h>` is listed as a textual header versus when it's not listed at all (in a simple world without any `use` checking, I assume). What difference do you have in mind?

I'm trying to say that `<modular_header_that_has_an_assert.h>` doesn't have a good way to know that using `assert` will be a bit weird with modules. If `<assert.h>` wasn't a modular header (textual or otherwise), then `<modular_header_that_has_an_assert.h>` could get a `-Wnon-modular-include-in-module` to let it know. Since the owner of `<modular_header_that_has_an_assert.h>` probably isn't aware of the subtle behavior difference, and probably never really thought about picking up `NDEBUG`, it's just what happens to happen in regular C without modules. Wheras if `<assert.h>` is textual modular, the behavior changes but it's not obvious.

https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/165057


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