[PATCH] D113107: Support of expression granularity for _Float16.

Steve Canon via Phabricator via cfe-commits cfe-commits at lists.llvm.org
Wed Nov 17 12:36:07 PST 2021


scanon added a comment.

In D113107#3138415 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D113107#3138415>, @rjmccall wrote:

> I think we keep dancing around this in this review, so let me go back and start from the basics.  There are four approaches I know of for evaluating a homogeneous `_Float16` expression like `a + b + c`:
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> 1. You can perform each operation with normal `_Float16` semantics.  Ideally, you would have hardware support for this.  If that isn't available, you can emulate the operations in software.  It happens to be true that, for the operations (`+`, `-`, `*`, `/`, `sqrt`) on `_Float16`, this emulation can just involve converting to e.g. `float`, doing the operation, and immediately converting back.  The core property of this approach is that there are no detectable differences from hardware support.
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> 2. As a slight twist on approach #1, you can ignore the differences between native `_Float16` and emulation with `float`; instead, you just always do arithmetic in `float`.  This potentially changes the result in some cases; e.g. Steve Canon tells me that FMAs on `float` avoid some rounding errors that FMAs on `_Float16` fall subject to.
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> 3. Approaches #1 and #2 require a lot of intermediate conversions when hardware isn't available.  In our example, `a + b + c` has to be calculated as `(_Float16) ((float) (_Float16) ((float) a + (float) b) + (float) c)`, where the result of one addition is converted down and then converted back again.  You can avoid this by specifically recognizing this pattern and eliminating the conversion from sub-operations that happen to be of type `float`, so that in our example, `a + b + c` would be calculated as `(_Float16) ((float) a + (float) b + (float) c)`.  This is actually allowed by the C standard by default as a form of FP contraction; in fact, I believe C's rules for FP contraction were originally designed for exactly this kind of situation, except that it was emulating `float` with `double` on hardware that only provided arithmetic on the latter.  Obviously, this can change results.
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> 4. The traditional language rule for `__fp16` is superficially similar to Approach #3 in terms of generated code, but it has some subtle differences in terms of the language.  `__fp16` is immediately promoted to `float` whenever it appears as an arithmetic operand.  What this means is that operations are performed in `float` but then not formally converted back (unless they're used in a context which requires a value of the original type, which entails a normal conversion, just as if you assigned a `double` into a `float` variable).  Thus, for example, `a + b + c` would actually have type `float`, not type `__fp16`.
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> What this patch is doing to `_Float16` is approach #4, basically treating it like `__fp16`.  That is non-conformant, and it doesn't seem to be what GCC does.  You can see that quite clearly here: https://godbolt.org/z/55oaajoax
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> What I believe GCC is doing (when not forbidden by `-fexcess-precision`) is approach #3: basically, FP contraction on expressions of `_Float16` type.

Basically agree with everything John said, with a note that #3 is not quite FP_CONTRACT, which allows evaluating an expression as if intermediate steps were infinitely-precise, but rather `FLT_EVAL_METHOD == 32` as defined in ISO/IEC TS 18661-3: "evaluate operations and constants, whose semantic type has at most the range and precision of the _Float32 type, to the range and precision of the _Float32 type; evaluate all other operations and constants to the range and precision of the semantic type".


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