[llvm-dev] Resuming the discussion of establishing an LLVM code of conduct

Robinson, Paul via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Thu May 5 17:06:52 PDT 2016

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> From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> Lattner via llvm-dev
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 4:36 PM
> To: Renato Golin
> Cc: llvm-dev
> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Resuming the discussion of establishing an LLVM
> code of conduct
> On May 5, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org> wrote:
> >> My personal involvement isn’t relevant to this discussion: the LLVM
> foundation is a single legal entity that you’re looking for.  It exists in
> large part because this *isn’t* about me, or any other single person.
> >
> > How large? I mean, if we really care about the community as a whole,
> Renato, I can only assure you that (for hopefully totally transparent
> reasons) I have a deep amount of care for LLVM as a project, and I know
> that its long term success is *ONLY* possible through a vibrant and
> awesome community as a whole.
> I can only interpret your tone and approach as saying that you think
> someone or some people are trying to nefariously harm the LLVM community.
> While I have no way to compel you to believe me, I really really do want
> the LLVM community to be vibrant and awesome, and it makes me sad that you
> apparently assume otherwise.
> -Chris

I don't read it as "nefariously harm" so much as ex-nihilo asserting
a Foundation exists and has some kind of control over the community
(e.g., insisting on a CoC).  Even if we all believe those in control 
are entirely benevolent (and I see no evidence to the contrary), it's 
still pretty disconcerting in terms of process.

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