[llvm-dev] [RFC] One or many git repositories?

James Molloy via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Wed Jul 27 11:04:03 PDT 2016


This thread is not particularly inviting. It has over 300 replies at the
time of writing and we don't all have the time to delve into such a
quagmire. That doesn't mean our opinions are worthless.


On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 19:01, Renato Golin via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> On 27 July 2016 at 17:47, Chris Bieneman via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> > First and foremost please don’t consider lack of dissent on the thread as
> > presence of consensus.
> Hi Chris,
> First things first: I give you my word that I will be yelling louder
> than others if this ever happens. (I can be *very* loud! :)
> People can push and yell all they want, changes like this are not done
> over mailing list discussions.
> I have volunteered to "take on" the discussion and try to make it fair
> and sound, and I'll do my best to include all opinions in the end.
> Also, I will not decide, nor push towards any one decision. I hope you
> trust me that there is no bias from my part. For example, what was
> considered "my" proposal was actually not what I would have wanted or
> benefited me.
> But we do have limited time to discuss (and work on the compiler at
> the same time), and I don't want to drag this for years (I don't have
> the stamina).
> So, the current "plan" is to formalise all proposals in around a
> month's time by uploading them as documents to docs/Proposals/*.rst,
> then put the survey up and let people take their time to answer
> (another month), than take some time to analyse the results, sharing
> the results with the community. If all goes well, we can do a session
> on US LLVM, where we take all the survey feedback into account and
> with a large group of people, take some decision.
> Of course, any decision will leave people supporting the N-1 other
> workflows wanting, and there's no way to avoid this. But the current
> solution is *already* letting  a lot of people down, so I don't see a
> way out where everyone will be happy.
> > The various git-related threads on LLVM-dev lately
> > have been so active and contentious that I think a lot of people are
> zoning
> > out on the conversations.
> I know... :(
> > I think it would be great for us to have several different proposals for
> how
> > the git-transition could work, and have a survey to get people’s
> opinions.
> Yup.
> > I know this has been discussed repeatedly, and I want to put in my vote
> in
> > favor of having a survey that takes into account multiple different
> > approaches.
> Yup.
> Barring time and survey size limitations, we can have as many as we want.
> I personally feel two is minimum, three is good, four is too much.
> I also think we should include "stay as it is" as an option, even if I
> don't think there will be that many votes towards it.
> If you want to discuss specifically about the survey, please get
> involved in the llvm-foundation's thread "Voting".
> cheers,
> --renato
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