[llvm-dev] RFC: Introducing an LLVM Community Code of Conduct
Chandler Carruth via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Oct 13 11:30:37 PDT 2015
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:16 AM Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org>
> On 13 October 2015 at 18:59, Chandler Carruth via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> > We have *not* appointed any such committee at this point.
> > (...)
> > The appeal is to the board of the Foundation. I don't expect the board to
> > *be* the committee here, quite the opposite.
> This doesn't solve the problem. If the foundation appoints the
> committee, appeals to the foundation are still open for abuse.
> Only democratic and transparent processes can work in this fashion,
> and I don't see the foundation as being either.
> > I don't think that their job will be to impose moral authority, I think
> > code of conduct is the basis they would be required to cite for any
> > decision. Their role should be much more focused on understanding what
> > happened, and ensuring it is responded to. I also think that is called
> > in the document.
> So why the need to list the punishments and make sure that only
> capital punishments can actually be appealed?
For some of the reasons we at least need to make it clear the scope:
> > I'm surprised and saddened to hear you say this. I also don't
> > agree. I have interacted with almost every member of the foundation
> board as
> > a regular course of interacting with the community. The foundation is
> > completely handling the planning and running of the developer's meeting.
> > Certainly, we're still in the infancy of figuring this stuff out, but I
> > don't see a problematic lack of engagement.
> Apart from the great work Tanya is doing with the LLVM meetings, I
> don't absolutely anything coming from the foundation. Can you
We are actively working on infrastructure issues (note the move to new
mailing list servers?) and issues around licensing (the discussions we have
had before about CLA).
But *none* of this belongs in this thread.
I'm very happy to have a discussion of how the foundation can (and IMO
should!) be more transparent and effective. I would also love to see other
discussions about the foundation. We even have a BoF dedicated to such
discussions at the developer's meeting.
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