[Openmp-dev] Debugger default off please

[Malysheva, Olga]

>>>Can you give an example of how this will help an end user debug his code?

Currently, the Intel-extended version of the GDB* (included into Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE 2015 Update 2 and Intel (R) Parallel Studio XE 2016 Beta) supports debugging of applications using OpenMP RTL.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-parallel-studio-xe-2015-update-2-composer-edition-for-linux
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-parallel-studio-xe-2016-composer-edition-c-debug-solutions-release-notes

Thank you.

Regards,
Olga

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From: openmp-dev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu [mailto:openmp-dev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu] On Behalf Of C Bergstrom
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To: Wilmarth, Terry L
Cc: openmp-dev at dcs-maillist2.engr.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: [Openmp-dev] Debugger default off please

Can you give an example of how this will help an end user debug his code?

Side note: having docs and examples for new features may help developers and end users understand.

Personally, I think for day-1 features it's way more conservative to leave them off by default unless there's a very compelling reason to turn them on-by-default. I counter argument to this is possibly something which really must get tested and exposed to as many users as possible (this could be such a feature)

Thanks

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Wilmarth, Terry L <terry.l.wilmarth at intel.com> wrote:
> The debugger code isn't "runtime developer"-only. It is for runtime end-users who want to write OpenMP codes and debug them using a debugger.
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> Also, I believe these changes had little/no impact on performance.
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> The on-by-default is an artifact of building the library into a product that will be used by OpenMP programmers.  However, I'm not opposed to off-by-default if you think it is better suited to this community.
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> jlpeyton committed rL241852: Turn debugger interface off by default
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> I don't know if these emails are making it to you guys or not.  They seem to be a bit sporadic right now.
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> It would be most kind if performance impacting features and things meant for developers only are turned off by default. While that is the exact target audience for this library - turning things on by default also has a stronger tendency to break automated systems as well.
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> -DLIBOMP_USE_DEBUGGER=off
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> Thanks
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