[llvm-devmeeting] Attention moderator: Spammer needs to be removed.

[Micah Villmow via llvm-devmeeting]

I would agree here to that this is borderline. I am neither registered or
going to the conference, yet the email is directed to me like I am going.
I would prefer not to have these type of generic emails.
On Mar 1, 2016 8:16 AM, "James Molloy via llvm-devmeeting" <
llvm-devmeeting at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I agree with David and Renato. I don’t think this classes perfectly as
> spam because it is targeted, however it’s borderline because perhaps it’s
> not quite targeted *enough*.
>
> The mailing list has been active for a long time, this is not a bot and we
> can take remedial action if the list does get spammed, therefore I don’t
> think we should come down hard with the banhammer in this case.
>
> James
>
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 16:11, John Randolph via llvm-devmeeting <
> llvm-devmeeting at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
> I disagree with this on the strongest possible terms.  I have moderated
> mailing lists with tens of thousands of subscribers, and once you let the
> spammers in, they will proliferate.
>
> -jcr
>
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 8:09 AM, David Blaikie <dblaikie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:04 AM, John Criswell via llvm-devmeeting <
> llvm-devmeeting at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> My thoughts on the matter is that such an email is on topic provided that
>> the person seeking employees is specifically looking for an employee for a
>> position that uses LLVM or one of its related subprojects (e.g., Clang).
>> My rationale is that we allow job postings on our lists for LLVM-related
>> positions, and so this seems very similar.  My problem with the post is
>> that it does not specifically state that the person is seeking employees
>> for an LLVM-related position; if we allow such posts, we should require
>> that in the future.
>>
>
> +1 to all that, and that's generally been the stance in the past. (I
> believe Chris Lattner was called out a bit when he posted a Swift posting
> without much tie in to LLVM, for example - and that was later
> clarified/corrected to include the LLVM context in that posting)
>
> That being said, is there any benefit to the /meeting/ list being publicly
> postable? Perhaps, like llvm-bugs, it should be announce-only & leave the
> discussion to the -dev lists? (most of the announcements are cross-posted
> to the dev lists anyway, so I assume the meeting list is just for those
> interested in the meeting, but not all the chatter?)
>
>
>> That said, I'd like to hear what others think.  Is my reasoning
>> reasonable, or should we take a hard line against such posts?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Criswell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/16 10:57 AM, Renato Golin via llvm-devmeeting wrote:
>>
>>> On 1 March 2016 at 15:11, John Randolph via llvm-devmeeting
>>> <llvm-devmeeting at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got spam from one "Amanda Rayworth-Kiernan”, a headhunter who
>>>> apparently sent her spam to this list.   I haven’t checked whether the list
>>>> has an explicit anti-spamming policy, but I’m sure I’m not the only person
>>>> here who doesn’t want headhunters abusing the list in this manner.
>>>>
>>> I got the same email.
>>>
>>> She is *very* specific, and targeting attendees of the next LLVM
>>> meeting, but doesn't seem to be recruiting for any particular
>>> position, but just asking for a coffee break chat. I take it this is
>>> more common in other less technical conferences, though.
>>>
>>> I agree the list admin should at least send her a reminder of what the
>>> list is for.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> --renato
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>>
>>
>> --
>> John Criswell
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Computer Science, University of Rochester
>> http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/criswell
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