[llvm-dev] Phabricator Creator Pulling the Plug

Mehdi AMINI via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Thu Sep 30 15:55:34 PDT 2021


We talked about this with the IWG (Infrastructure Working Group) just
last week coincidentally.
Two major blocking tracks that were identified at the roundtable
during the LLVM Dev Meeting exactly 2 years ago are still an issue
today:

1) Replacement for Herald rules. This is what allows us to subscribe
and track new revisions or commits based on paths in the repo or other
criteria. We could build a replacement based on GitHub action or any
other kind of service, but this is a bit tricky (how do you store
emails privately? etc.). I have looked around online but I didn't find
another OSS project (or external company) providing a similar service
for GitHub unfortunately, does anyone know of any?

2) Support for stacked commits. I can see how to structure this
somehow assuming we would push pull-request branches in the main repo
(with one new commit per branch and cascading the pull-requests from
one branch to the other), otherwise this will be a major regression
compared to the current workflow.

What remains unknown to me is the current state of GitHub management
of comments across `git commit --amend` and force push to update a
branch.

Others may have other items to add!

-- 
Mehdi

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 3:39 PM Brian Cain via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
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> How far are we from a workflow that leverages Github's Pull Requests?  Is there some consensus that it's a desired end goal, but some features are missing?  Or do we prefer to use a workflow like this for the long term?
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> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 4:54 PM Chris Tetreault via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
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>> As I, and others have noticed, it seems that as of today, there’s some certificate issue with arcanist. (See: https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2021-September/153019.html) The fix seems simple, and a PR is up, but looking through the PR activity, it seems that the PR will not be accepted because Phabricator is no longer being maintained. It seems that arc has become the first casualty of the discontinuation of maintenance of phabricator.
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>> I know that arc is not universally used, but I think it’s a serious blow to many people’s workflows. I think that MyDeveloperDay’s question might have just become a bit more urgent.
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>> I suppose in the short-term, we could fork the phabricator repos in order to fix little issues like this. Alternately, we should probably stop recommending arcanist (unless we want to provide instructions on how to fix any breakages that come along).
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>> Thanks,
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>>    Chris Tetreault
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>> I'm a massive fan of Phabricator, and I know there is often lots of contentious discussion about its relative merits vs github,
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>> But unless I missed this, was there any discussion regarding the recent "Winding Down" announcement of Phabricator? and what it might mean for us in LLVM
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>> See:
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>> https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_winding_down_operations/
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>> https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/
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>> Personally I'm excited by the concept of a community driven replacement ( https://we.phorge.it/) .
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>> epriestley did a truly amazing job, it wasn't open to public contributions. Perhaps more open development could lead to closing some of the github gaps that were of concern.
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