[llvm-dev] Placement of static allocas

Johannes Doerfert via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Wed Sep 22 09:34:37 PDT 2021


On 9/22/21 10:37 AM, Reid Kleckner via llvm-dev wrote:
> Frontends should place allocas in the entry block, and importantly, they
> should appear before any instruction that can later expand into control
> flow, such as an inlinable function call. Passes should not pessimize IR by
> inserting control flow before static allocas. The doc you linked to seems
> to cover that.

The interesting part is not as much control flow as it is non-alloca
instructions because control flow already breaks our current "canonical 
form".

So, do we want to say that allocas should not be interleaved with any
other instruction in the entry block (in our canonical form), or should
we say that canonical form is "just" requiring them to be in the entry.
We only do the latter explicitly today. Some FEs and passes insert code
in-between allocas, e.g. as-casts or debug metadata. I'd also not be 
surprised
if we find more cases that insert a cast or similar before an alloca.

One way to determine how different those two are in practice would be to
stop scanning the entire entry block in SROA. Any non-clustered alloca won't
easily be promoted and show up as a blip in our monitoring.

I personally don't feel strongly here though I imagine the currently written
down canonical form is simpler to maintain. Clustered static allocas can be
created for all static allocas with a simple scan+move over the entry. I 
think
maintaining clustered allocas is unnecessarily hard is because passes that
introduce casts (or similar) need to have a special check for the 
alloca/entry
block case. That said, it's not impossible.

Long story short, I feel SROA should define the canonical form here. It will
give people a strong incentive to follow that form :)

~ Johannes


>
> As far as rules go, this is not something that the verifier can enforce,
> because static allocas don't carry a special "static" marker. The static
> property is determined simply by the placement of the instruction. There is
> the `inalloca` marker, but that's not relevant here.
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:55 AM Mahesha S via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, the verifier does not complain about the
>> (mis-)placement of alloca, probably because it is not something related to
>> correctness (in theory), but it is related to optimization opportunities
>> (in practice).
>>
>> I could see this documentation -
>> https://llvm.org/docs/Frontend/PerformanceTips.html#use-of-allocas after
>> this discussion -
>> https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-September/090191.html.
>> But, nothing more on it.
>>
>> So not sure about - what is the general rule being set on placement of
>> static allocas?, or, if there is any such rule in the first place? or,
>> front-end and opt passes are free about the placement of static allocas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mahesha
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:56 PM Min-Yih Hsu <minyihh at uci.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> IIRC you can interleave debug intrinsics (e.g. llvm.dbg.declare) with
>>> alloca instructions (at least the verifier doesn't complain). Not sure if
>>> there are other intrinsics that fall into this category as well.
>>>
>>> -Min
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 7:45 AM Mahesha S via llvm-dev <
>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi-
>>>>
>>>> Here is my understanding and assumption about the placement of static
>>>> allocas:
>>>>
>>>> "All static allocas should appear in the entry basic block before any
>>>> function call for better optimization opportunities. If there are
>>>> interleaved static allocas with function call in-between, such an ir is
>>>> considered broken, even though the ir is valid from correctness
>>>> perspective. And if any pass is not adhering to the requirement that all
>>>> static allocas should be placed in the entry block before any function
>>>> call, then such a pass is considered broken since it may lead to surprising
>>>> results in general."
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if my above understanding is correct or not.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mahesha
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> LLVM Developers mailing list
>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Min-Yih Hsu
>>> Ph.D Student in ICS Department, University of California, Irvine (UCI).
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> LLVM Developers mailing list
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> LLVM Developers mailing list
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev


More information about the llvm-dev mailing list