[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] Mailing List Status Update

Shivam Gupta via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Jun 15 22:16:36 PDT 2021


I <https://llvm.discourse.group/u/shivam/summary> also find the Discourse
forum super noisy/fancy/distracting in terms of colors. Every post
unnecessary shows profile pictures, and some people use strange emojis
there.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 12:43 AM Philip Reames via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

>
> On 6/15/21 11:15 AM, Matt P. Dziubinski via llvm-dev wrote:
> > On 6/15/2021 19:41, David Blaikie wrote:
> >>     When
> >>     you open a page on https://llvm.discourse.group
> >>     <https://llvm.discourse.group> it doesn't load (or
> >>     show) the entire thread on one page by default but instead
> >>     progressively
> >>     loads (and unloads) partial content as you scroll along.
> >>
> >> Ah, yeah - which is why it hijacks the search shortcut to do a web
> >> form search rather than the browser builtin. Seems to work OK - I
> >> wouldn't count this as a major usability problem, at least for me.
> >
> > Fair enough, there's always an element of subjectivity to UX, so YMMV.
> > At the same time one issue with the aforementioned hijacking is that
> > is not complete, either--e.g., it doesn't support built-in search
> > features like "Find Next" or "Find Previous". For users used to
> > keyboard navigation this is a usability problem (especially in
> > development-oriented discussions, when searching for occurrences of
> > identifiers in, say, LLVM IR does come in handy).
>
> I want to highlight the accessibility point here.  I have fairly poor
> vision, and regularly consume content in modes which someone with
> perfect vision might not.  The ability to blow things up, search easily
> within a page, and otherwise consume content in a customizable manner
> *matters* to me.  I emphasize this because I feel the point often gets
> lost in tooling discussions.
>
>
> >
> >>     There's no such restriction in the Mailman web UI since it
> >> displays the
> >>     entire thread on one page by default, even for longer threads, e.g.,
> >>
> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/JM6SQ2YNMDAKXYD5O54QWMVR2X7QOXVL/
> >> <
> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/JM6SQ2YNMDAKXYD5O54QWMVR2X7QOXVL/
> >
> >>     Loading the complete thread (displaying all messages) allows the
> >>     built-in search to work without issues.
> >>
> >> Great to see too - especially to see that it addresses an issue
> >> that's always pained me about our current mailman setup, where
> >> threads get split by week or month - so there's no nice way to link
> >> to a whole thread. I'll be happy to see that addressed in either/any
> >> way.
> >
> > Agreed, I also see this as an improvement.
> >
> > Best,
> > Matt
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