[llvm-dev] [RFC] [X86] Emit unaligned vector moves on avx machine with option control.

[Craig Topper via llvm-dev]

What if we didn't use aligned instructions by default like what PS4 did.
And then had a command line option that would "enable alignment exceptions"
if someone wants them. Maybe that option should also disable memory folding
since memory folding never checks alignment with AVX? Do other targets that
have vectors have alignment exceptions like this? We're not obligated to
emit code that detects alignment errors. And we already don't if the load
gets folded. It seems the problem with the current proposal is that once
you have the exception, setting a flag to make it go away is the wrong
response.

~Craig


On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 1:10 PM Reid Kleckner via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> Right, I get that this doesn't match what you are doing for PS4, and it
> doesn't match what Chen3 Liu proposed. To James's point, the
> -fmax-type-align flag is more principled because it powers down all the
> other LLVM optimizations that assume aligned pointers have zeros in the low
> bits.
>
> As for how to handle explicit alignment attributes that don't come from
> type information, maybe we could revisit that behavior, or conditionalize
> it with a flag. I just mean to say that there is prior art for this
> direction. We should continue in the direction of a complete solution from
> the frontend, rather than adding a workaround in the backend.
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:54 AM <paul.robinson at sony.com> wrote:
>
>> | This sounds like the -fmax-type-align flag:
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, no, at least not for the PS4 case.  In our case, the type had an
>> alignment attribute but the caller didn’t make sure the allocated memory
>> was aligned properly.  The -fmax-type-align flag explicitly doesn’t do
>> anything in that case, if I’m reading it correctly.  (Yes, it’s a bug.
>> Yes, sanitizers or other testing could have found it.  No, there is no
>> opportunity to do any of the things that would have fixed it correctly.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Really what we did was effectively this:  Pretend X86 doesn’t have a
>> VMOVAPS opcode.  That’s all.  Nothing about memory/operand alignment
>> attributes was modified, IR is unchanged.  Pretend that one machine opcode
>> is missing.  Can’t possibly affect anything about IR optimizations, *
>> *maybe** something post-ISel would be different but even that is hard to
>> imagine.  (As best I can remember, the only test updates we had to make
>> were to change things like “vmovaps” to “vmov{{u|a}}ps” and done.)  It’s
>> like we did s/movaps/movups/g on the assembly output.
>>
>>
>>
>> I still can’t say I think it should be appropriate to do upstream—no real
>> info yet on Intel’s problem case--but I hope this explains why the bigger
>> hammer (i.e., get Clang involved) doesn’t seem necessary or appropriate.
>>
>> --paulr
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> *On Behalf Of *Reid
>> Kleckner via llvm-dev
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:59 PM
>> *To:* James Y Knight <jyknight at google.com>
>> *Cc:* llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org; Liu, Chen3 <chen3.liu at intel.com>; Luo,
>> Yuanke <yuanke.luo at intel.com>; Maslov, Sergey V <
>> sergey.v.maslov at intel.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [llvm-dev] [RFC] [X86] Emit unaligned vector moves on avx
>> machine with option control.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:58 AM James Y Knight via llvm-dev <
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>> What I suspect you *actually* want here is an option to tell Clang not
>> to infer load/store alignments based on object types or alignment
>> attributes -- instead treating everything as being potentially aligned to 1
>> unless the allocation is seen (e.g. global/local variables). Clang would
>> still need to use the usual alignment computation for variable definitions
>> and structure layout, but not memory operations. If clang emits "load ...
>> align 1" instructions in LLVM IR, the right thing would then happen in the
>> X86 backend automatically.
>>
>>
>>
>> This sounds like the -fmax-type-align flag:
>>
>> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html#controlling-code-generation
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html*controlling-code-generation__;Iw!!JmoZiZGBv3RvKRSx!uoBVF33nyuM5lbseJ-XKanIeYhdhHW9yOoxyF7zJ56FjUs8jsfdUcuw4AQ96FRBrmA$>
>>
>> Explicit alignment attributes are still honored, so some aligned vector
>> instructions may be generated. However, the documentation describes
>> essentially this exact use case.
>>
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