[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] Can we remove llvmbb from IRC?

David Blaikie via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Thu Sep 3 10:34:19 PDT 2020


Fair enough - it is very noisy.

I'm surprised these aren't all producing corresponding emails, though (at
least those only go to the people on the blame list - but that seemed to be
the case Nico was citing - though the general "I'm not even to blame but
this is adding a lot of noise to the channel/making it hard to have
conversations" is a broad/broader problem). And still seems important to
improve the signal/noise ratio.

Sent https://reviews.llvm.org/D87100 to do that. & also looking into the
config about IRC V email notification configuration. Hopefully those
configurations can be unified. I don't think it's any more appropriate to
send IRC notifications than email notifications. (I guess now that the IRC
notifications will be fairly opt-in, maybe - but I still would rather there
be less noise to make the signal stand out, so if a bot isn't producing
accurate enough info to send mail, then maybe not IRC either)

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 8:47 AM Reid Kleckner via cfe-dev <
cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> I'm not on IRC anymore, so my opinion matters less, but I think it's time
> to shut it down. It is a relic from a different time when there were fewer
> bots, fewer contributors, and more IRC users. These days it generates too
> many notifications and the audience isn't as well targeted.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:08 PM Nico Weber via cfe-dev <
> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> llvmbb's job is to inform people of build breaks. However, it seems to
>> trigger for a big list of bots, and at least one of them seems to always be
>> broken, and the broken bots tend to have cycle times of several hours. So
>> if you're on IRC and you commit something, you get pinged by llvmbb for
>> hours afterwards.
>>
>> Does anyone think llvmbb is useful?
>>
>> The best thing about llvmbb I've heard it's easy to just "/ignore
>> llvmbb", but if that's what everybody does then why not not have it in the
>> first place?
>>
>> Nico
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