[llvm-dev] Inclusive language in LLVM: can we rename `job` in source code?

Eric Christopher via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Thu Jun 25 12:11:42 PDT 2020


You've been asked to please stop. I'm going to ask one more time.

Thank you.

-eric

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM antlists via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> On 25/06/2020 11:14, Jules Penuchot via llvm-dev wrote:
> > The comparison between oppressed people claiming back space in
> > high-stakes domains like computer science and an authoritarian regime
> > that enforces a new language just to suppress revolutionary ideas is
> > irrelevant.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, NO oppressed people care about the language.
>
> > People are protesting around the world because they've been
> > living under constant monitoring and oppression by representatives of
> > states that are authoritarian towards them (e.g. systematically
> > unpunished murders from police officers, unlawful arrests, severe
> > judgements, etc.).
>
> Then we should do something about that oppression. I think the real
> problem here is that America claims to be "The Land of the Free" -
> what's that on the Statue of Liberty about "Send us your oppressed" etc
> etc, but Blacks feel oppressed in their own land.
>
> > This is what leads us to question vocabulary that
> > directly refers to the roots of that discriminatory violence.
>
> And in the conteXt of this sentence, "us" means "The White Morally
> Superior Brigade". And my eXperience of this in Britain is that Blacks
> etc object strongly - "stop making things worse!".
>
> Unfortunately, America is by far the worst offender in this regard of
> actual abuse. If we can fiX America, maybe we can fiX other countries,
> but in Britain I'd say it's not intentional, and it's down to ignorance.
>
> We have something called "Stop and Search", which Black people hate.
> Let's say the Police stop 100 people, and find 8 black people with
> knives, and four whites. We had a Chief Police Officer make a similar (I
> can't remember it eXactly) argument on national TV. EXcept there's a
> *crucial* piece of information missing. That 100 includes 80 blacks. NOW
> do the maths ... That's just ignorant prejudice, not malicious.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
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