[llvm-dev] Phabricator Maintenance

Fri Jun 19 14:22:59 PDT 2020

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:15 PM Keith Smiley <keithbsmiley at gmail.com> wrote:

> FWIW GitHub's code review tools have improved significantly in the past
> few years. At this point with reviews and manual control over resolving /
> unresolving comments I think many previous complaints I've seen about
> GitHub vs Phabricator have been alleviated.
>

To be clear: this wasn't an outdated comment here, I'm using GitHub very
frequently *right now* as I'm reviewing contributions to TensorFlow.

>
> I also believe there's significant value for newcomers and casual
> contributors (like myself) in using the same tool as so many other major
> open source projects.
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 13:04 Mehdi AMINI via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:56 AM Hubert Tong via llvm-dev <
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:32 PM Anton Korobeynikov via llvm-dev <
>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents here: we are working on enabling this as a part of
>>>> bugzilla migration as PRs and issues are very tied inside GitHub. Stay
>>>> tuned for updates!
>>>>
>>> I am not aware that the previous long thread about usage of GitHub PRs
>>> in place of Phabricator reviews got anywhere near the point where the
>>> option of Phabricator reviews was being dropped
>>>
>>
>> That's my impression as well, I find GitHub review is frustrating in
>> comparison to phab, in particular the way comments are handled across
>> updates, unless you stick to never rebase and only append commits and
>> merges from master. This is unfortunately not compatible with the LLVM repo
>> history right now.
>>
>> https://www.phacility.com offers hosting for Phabricator, could we look
>> into this instead?
>>
>> --
>> Mehdi
>>
>>
>>
>>> . The original post on this thread indicated interest in not maintaining
>>> Phabricator. How does that affect the availability of Phabricator? Does
>>> this mean that the community is going to move to GitHub PRs because the
>>> choice of Phabricator is being taken away?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:45 PM Manuel Klimek via llvm-dev
>>>> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > -Chris' outdated email, +Chris' correct email :)
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 2:01 PM Manuel Klimek <klimek at google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi folks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> phabricator maintenance is a topic that has been lying dormant for a
>>>> while now.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That subsequently creates a non-optimal user experience.
>>>> >> For me personally, given that github provides a secure PR
>>>> infrastructure, the additional effort required to keep Phab going is not an
>>>> investment I'm personally willing to make. I understand that there are
>>>> unique selling points for Phab in its UI compared to github PRs, but there
>>>> are also significant downsides in the effort to integrate with Phab that
>>>> github PRs make easier.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thus, I see two options:
>>>> >> 1. somebody volunteers to take on Phabricator maintenance and
>>>> figures out a way to fund it, either through the LLVM foundation or some
>>>> other means (I'd love for us at Google to pay for it directly and give
>>>> folks outside Google access, but that is unfortunately a hard problem for a
>>>> variety of reasons). I'd be happy to help to provide a DB snapshot for the
>>>> migration, of course.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2. We switch to github PRs
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thoughts?
>>>> >> /Manuel
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:42 PM Raphael Isemann <teemperor at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Friendly ping
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Am Do., 9. Apr. 2020 um 16:04 Uhr schrieb Alexandre Ganea
>>>> >>> <alexandre.ganea at ubisoft.com>:
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > cc Paul / MyDeveloperDay
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > De : llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> De la part de
>>>> David Blaikie via llvm-dev
>>>> >>> > Envoyé : April 8, 2020 10:21 PM
>>>> >>> > À : Raphael “Teemperor” Isemann <teemperor at gmail.com>; Manuel
>>>> Klimek <klimek at google.com>
>>>> >>> > Cc : llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>
>>>> >>> > Objet : Re: [llvm-dev] Outdated Phabricator version on
>>>> reviews.llvm.org breaks Google authentication since today
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > hey Manuel - are you/do you know who's likely to be doing any
>>>> upkeep on Phabricator these days? Might need an update for this...
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > - Dave
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:57 AM Raphael “Teemperor” Isemann via
>>>> llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Hi all,
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > I’m using my Google account to log into my Phabricator account on
>>>> reviews.llvm.org . Since today that no longer works as I don’t seem to
>>>> get any reply from reviews.llvm.org when I’m logged into my account.
>>>> It tried logging out which fixes the issue of reviews.llvm.org not
>>>> loading, but when I try to login I just get the following error:
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > > Expected to retrieve an "account" email from Google Plus API
>>>> call to identify account, but failed.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > After some searching it seems that this error is due to the
>>>> Google Plus API being shutdown and the Phabricator folks replaced that
>>>> logic (including this error message string) a year ago here [1]
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > I assume we haven’t updated reviews.llvm.org to whatever latest
>>>> Phabricator release contains that patch.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Not sure who’s currently responsible for updating
>>>> reviews.llvm.org so I thought I’ll just drop a mail to the list (and
>>>> maybe save someone else from figuring out why their login is suddenly
>>>> broken).
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > [1] https://secure.phabricator.com/D20030
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards, Anton Korobeynikov
>>>> Department of Statistical Modelling, Saint Petersburg State University
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