[llvm-dev] How to help improve debug experience w/ optimizations enabled?

Pierre van Houtryve via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Wed Feb 26 06:36:10 PST 2020


Hello,

Thank you very much for your detailed answer.

I didn't know DExTer was in the monorepo, I have been working on the "old" Dexter repo and I even made several changes/fixes to Dexter.
I'll need to move my changes to the new version then (I hope to upstream a few of them, but it still needs some work)

I already picked up one bug from the umbrella bug (and it's now waiting for review), I'll try to pick up more of them in the next few days.

Kind regards,
Pierre van Houtryve
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From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> on behalf of Jeremy Morse via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>
Sent: 26 February 2020 12:40
To: Vedant Kumar <vedant_kumar at apple.com>
Cc: llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>
Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] How to help improve debug experience w/ optimizations enabled?

Hi Pierre,

> Is there any bug in this list that isn't being looked at (and that doesn't require a lot of knowledge) that I could work on?

As others say, please do pick up any unassigned bug. Some of the bugs
in the umbrella bugs haven't been touched in roughly a year -- just
identifying whether they reproduce or not on the master branch today
is worthwhile, so that we know what to focus on,

> In general, if I want to find bug reports about missing debug info/poor debug experience, where should I look at?
> e.g. bug trackers for clang-built projects, particular code examples, issues you encountered but haven't reported yet, etc.

A while back I wrote some small Dexter tests to stimulate different
optimisations in LLVM [0], on the principle that this should generate
a suite of programs with different behaviours, that we could look at
the debuginfo for. Most of the worst errors were reported under the
umbrella bug, but there were some strange behaviours that didn't end
up being reported. It might be worth re-running Dexter over these
tests to see if there are still weird behaviours present. Note that
differences in the code generated in the meantime may have altered or
even invalidated the tests since then (alas), and a certain amount of
analysis is needed to determine whether debuginfo can really be
improved.

> I also tried using Dexter (https://github.com/SNSystems/dexter ) to find issues, but it's hard to find something that I can fix in a reasonable amount of time using Dexter alone as I don't have enough LLVM experience to know where to look at/what to look for.

(Note that Dexter is now in the 'debuginfo-tests' dir of the
monorepo). I've tended to use Dexter in a very tight loop of modifying
code and then running Dexter to see what the debugger observes about
that code, to quickly try out code patterns that might be faulty. If I
had to pick an area, I'd say that manipulating structs / passing them
between functions might be an area worth analysing, we've had a few
bugs with struct fragments being misinterpreted recently.

[0] https://github.com/jmorse/dexter/tree/92f8ee722dda9710eb33969f00d29b48059b95bb/tests/nostdlib/llvm_passes

--
Thanks,
Jeremy
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