[llvm-dev] Exceptions and performance
David Blaikie via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Aug 17 15:14:11 PDT 2020
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 3:04 PM Haoran Xu via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
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>> I did some experiments about a year ago with different hand-written
>> assembly implementations of error handling control flow patterns and it
>> was really hard to beat the checked return on recent Intel hardware.
>> This was a microbenchmark, so didn't see effects from increased cache usage.
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> That's a very interesting result. Thanks for the insights!
> Just out of curiosity, did you remember how much slowdown you get between checked return and no check at all (simply ignore the error)?
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>> There's also the fact that explicit error checking lets the programmer
>> simplify the CFG explicitly. If you're calling two functions that don't
>> depend on any data flow between them, you can do something like:
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>> auto a = someFn();
>> auto b = someOtherFn();
>> if (!a || !b)
>> doSomeErrorHandlingStuffs();
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>> Transforming exception-driven code into this structure would be an
>> invalid transform unless the compiler could prove that someOtherFn() has
>> no observable side effects.
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> I didn't fully understand this part. If someOtherFn() has obversable side effects, you cannot convert
> auto a = someFn(); if (!a) { ... }
> auto b = someOtherFn() if (!b) { ... }
> to your code snippet either..
David was specifically talking about the case where SomeOtherFn and
SomeFn "don't depend on any data flow between each other".
eg: you are performing lookups on two containers - compiler doesn't
know these lookups have no side effects, so it can't collapse the two,
but you as the author can see that readily.
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> David Chisnall via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> 于2020年8月14日周五 上午7:55写道:
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>> On 14/08/2020 03:39, David Blaikie via llvm-dev wrote:
>> > Once you get past the nothrow default problems, then you probably have
>> > to deal with the performance tradeoffs between the current strategy
>> > for exception implementations (table based, etc) compared to the
>> > tradeoffs for explicit error handling. You'd probably find that using
>> > exceptions for/every/ error return would not be the right perf
>> > tradeoff for many use cases where errors are at least somewhat common.
>> > So you'd probably end up with a hybrid solution - some things using
>> > exceptions where the failure is rare/going to be costly anyway
>> > (stopping the process, showing an error to a user/asking for user
>> > input about retrying, etc) and then still using explicit error
>> > handling for other things.
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>> There's a second-order effect here too. Everyone knows exceptions are
>> slow, so everyone writes fast-path code with explicit error returns. As
>> a result, modern branch predictors are *really* good at predicting the
>> no-error case. A lot of the arguments about checked return values being
>> slow date back to in-order processors where adding any instructions on
>> the fast path was always a slowdown, even if they were not-taken branches.
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>> I did some experiments about a year ago with different hand-written
>> assembly implementations of error handling control flow patterns and it
>> was really hard to beat the checked return on recent Intel hardware.
>> This was a microbenchmark, so didn't see effects from increased cache usage.
>>
>> There's also the fact that explicit error checking lets the programmer
>> simplify the CFG explicitly. If you're calling two functions that don't
>> depend on any data flow between them, you can do something like:
>>
>> auto a = someFn();
>> auto b = someOtherFn();
>> if (!a || !b)
>> doSomeErrorHandlingStuffs();
>>
>> Transforming exception-driven code into this structure would be an
>> invalid transform unless the compiler could prove that someOtherFn() has
>> no observable side effects.
>>
>> David
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