[llvm-dev] RFC: Moving toward Discord and Discourse for LLVM's discussions

Sam McCall via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Nov 18 06:18:14 PST 2019

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:49 PM Robinson, Paul via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> |  mailing lists for longer-form discussions are unfamiliar, difficult,
> and often intimidating for newcomers
> Um… what?  While I know (via my own children) that folks nowadays use
> multiple avenues of communication, it’s **really** hard to imagine email
> as a **mechanism** being unfamiliar/difficult/intimidating.  Moving to a
> new mechanism wouldn’t alter the fact of the very large number of strangers
> participating, which to my mind would be the
> unfamiliar/difficult/intimidating part.
> --paulr
Some cases I can think of here:
 - unclear how to reply to a mail that was sent before you subscribed to
the ML (obvious newbie problem - generally I'd lurk on the web until I
wanted to reply)
 - unclear how to create a partitioned space (new mailing list) for a topic
 - subscription state/bounce messages/moderation are all IMO unclear if you
haven't used mailman before
 - the volume of traffic on (effectively-mandatory) lists is so high that
it requires using mail filters, most people don't use those

(A weak +1 to the concern about this change being made by some people in a
conference room somewhere - if that's the decision-making process that's
fine with me, but it'd be great to know that and have a defined way to get
issues on the agenda)
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