[llvm-dev] [RFC] Renaming f18....

[Finkel, Hal J. via llvm-dev]

On 4/30/19 9:33 AM, David Greene via llvm-dev wrote:
> "fortran" seems far too generic to me.  What distinguishes it from a
> different Fortran compiler?
>
> What about "flange" (Fortran language environment)?  It's distinct from
> the already-in-use-by-two-projects "flang" yet fits in with the existing
> "clang" naming scheme.  Plus it captures the fact that the Fortran
> runtime is a rather large piece of work.


I think that we should call the project flang and the name of the drive
should also be flang. With all due respect to the other projects called
flang, and I've been involved in at least two of them, the goal has
always been to have an upstream fortran compiler called flang, and if
this is our upstream fortran compiler, it should be called flang.

The fact that the Clang mailing list is called cfe-dev, etc. instead of
clang-dev, etc. is confusing to those outside of the community. I think
that we should not repeat that kind of difference, and we should name
the mailing lists, directories, etc. based on "flang" as well.

Thanks again,

Hal


>
>                           -David
>
> Stephen Scalpone via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> writes:
>
>> On 4/10/19, 12:15 PM, "llvm-dev on behalf of Chris Lattner via llvm-dev" wrote:
>>
>>> The foundation recommends considering a new name for the project (e.g. flang or simply fortran)
>>>  to be more accessible and obvious for new contributors - in addition to being the repository name,
>>>  it will also  be the base stem for mailing lists and other project related material.  The f18 folks can
>>> discuss this, come up with a decision, and work with the llvm-admin team to set up the requisite infra.
>>  
>>
>> We'd like to recommend "fortran" as the name of the source repository, mailing list (fortran-dev), and the C++ namespace.  The source code is all about Fortran so
>> people working on the compiler and tools will be thinking fortran first and foremost.
>>
>>  
>>
>> As for the driver, time will tell.  I expect the f18 developers at Arm will post an RFC asking for advice about how to write the driver.  Base it on clang or start fresh? 
>> Extract the clang driver into its own project?  Name it flang?  But that's another RFC.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your feedback,
>>
>>  
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>  
>>
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