[llvm-dev] [RFC] Tablegen-erated GlobalISel Combine Rules
Quentin Colombet via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Fri Nov 9 19:59:02 PST 2018
Le ven. 9 nov. 2018 à 18:47, Daniel Sanders <daniel_l_sanders at apple.com> a
écrit :
> Thanks Quentin!
>
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 09:47, Quentin Colombet via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>
> What do you mean by "prototype different approaches quickly"?
>
>
> I mean exploring different combine strategies :).
>
>
> That's actually my motivation for making it (mostly) declarative now
> rather than later :-). It's also easier to do it while there's only two
> rules rather than letting it build up and having to migrate it to something
> else.
>
As soon as we believe we won’t have to rewrite the rules (or anything to be
fair) we already narrowing the options we can try.
I am not saying this is the wrong approach, but we certainly have not
pushed it far enough for me to be confident that pushing a whole table gen
backend behind the mir rules is worth it. If you were scripting around that
and thus being consciously okay to just drop it if it doesn’t work that
would be a different discussion :).
The more we invest into an approach the more difficult it is to move away
from it even if that would be the right thing to do (e.g., SDISel).
Anyway, at the end of the day, you’re the ones doing the work.
> I have some plans for the Combine algorithm to make it more aware of the
> impact of its changes and able to choose not to make a change if it's going
> to be harmful to the overall performance. Assuming I can make the plan
> work, there's a few nice benefits that come along with it. In particular I
> want to be able to pull the apply step away from the match step and look
> into delaying the apply until it's seen enough of the MIR to make an
> informed decision about the cost/benefit of the apply. While I'm looking
> into this, others will start building up the combine library using the
> current algorithm.
>
> With a model we are stuck with what it was designed to express.
> For instance, currently with SDISel there are no way to express
> something like paired loads, i.e., patterns like this:
> load @a, load @a + 4 => loadpair @a
>
> Because the DAGs needs to be single rooted.
> In C++ we do whatever we want (I am not saying it is easy ;).)
>
>
> This particular case is was one of the ones I was thinking of when I was
> thinking about multi-root matches. The same idea that drives the better
> decision making should also enable matching of things like ARM's ldm
> instruction. I think it should also be able to match non-overlapping
> operations too.
>
> It's funny, because I always thought the exact opposite: I felt like
> there are constraints in the freedom to explore different approaches
> precisely because the combines are not described declaratively, and too
> much of how everything fits together is de facto hardcoded in C++.
>
> But maybe we mean different things?
>
>
> I think we meant the same think and I admit I don't see how C++ could
> be more constrained than a declarative description that rely on C++
> code to be executed :).
> I agree that declarative syntax is easier to express and rewrite though.
>
>
> I do agree with you that MIR code blocks seem like the wrong model for
> describing combines.
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolai
>
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