[llvm-dev] Migrate utils/ Python 2 scripts to Python 3
Fāng-ruì Sòng via llvm-dev
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Thu Feb 1 15:30:23 PST 2018
On 2018-01-31, Chris Matthews wrote:
>The suggested way to do this on OSX is using env:
>
>#!/usr/bin/env python3
Sorry, I use `#!/usr/bin/env python3` in my patch but used #!/usr/bin/python3 in the email :)
>
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:48 AM, Adrian Prantl <aprantl at apple.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Fāng-ruì Sòng via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information. Then how about standalone scripts (many
>>> one-file) like utils/update_check_tests.py that are unrelated to lit
>>> or other important infrastructure? Can they be changed from
>>> `#!/usr/bin/python2.7` to `#!/usr/bin/python3` shebang?
>>>
>>
>> No. Every machine running macOS has /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2.7 and because of system integrity protection it isn't even possible to install a python3 binary into /usr/bin (You can install it to /usr/local/bin though).
>>
>> -- adrian
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Chris Matthews
>>> <chris.matthews at apple.com> wrote:
>>>> Personally, every machine I work with only has Python 2.7.
>>>>
>>>> Justin is correct that there is a non-trivial amount of effort to convert
>>>> the bots.
>>>>
>>>> Python 3 is wonderful. But, a Python 3 dependency seems like one burden that
>>>> could be avoided. We have already made that trade-off in the past, for
>>>> example by only using standard python packages, so there is less/nothing to
>>>> pip install when getting started. Dependencies likes host compiler and
>>>> cmake totally make sense given they are central to how LLVM is made. I
>>>> don’t think the same for the python code.
>>>>
>>>> I’m in favor of 2/3 compatibility until the death clock ends.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2018, at 4:48 AM, 陳韋任 via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does Python 3 have feature we want to use in LLVM codebase, and no
>>>> workaround there? If so, please give some examples. I think that makes the
>>>> discussion more concrete.
>>>>
>>>> 2018-01-30 4:46 GMT+08:00 Fāng-ruì Sòng via llvm-dev
>>>> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi LLVM-Devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that many Python scripts under utils/ have a shebang of
>>>>> `#!/usr/bin/python` (which is a symlink to python2.7 on many platforms)
>>>>> and some of them use Python 2 syntax that is not compatible with Python 3
>>>>> (e.g. print statements; str/bytes)
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a revision to migrate utils/update_{llc_,}_test_checks.py from
>>>>> Python 2 to Python 3 https://reviews.llvm.org/D42450 , the arguments against
>>>>> making it Python 3 is:
>>>>>
>>>>> * There are many Mac OS X users and Mac OS X 10.8 comes with Python 2.7
>>>>> pre-installed [0] but not Python 3.
>>>>> * Forcing scripts to use Python 3 (by doing so we can avoid some
>>>>> compatibility trouble) may not be a good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Python 2.7 was published in 2010 and planned as the last of the 2.x
>>>>> releases. It will not be maintained past 2020 and there is also a retirement
>>>>> page https://pythonclock.org/ .
>>>>>
>>>>> The second argument would not need to be addressed if the first one did
>>>>> not lay too much burden on developers. After all, we have to install `cmake,
>>>>> ninja/GNU Make / libedit(for lldb)` to build LLVM. These packages are not
>>>>> installed by default on many platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts on deprecating Python 2 for utils/ scripts (different from
>>>>> libclang or lldb scripts) which are not user-facing?
>>>>>
>>>>> [0]:
>>>>> https://docs.python.org/3/using/mac.html#getting-and-installing-macpython
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Fangrui
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