[llvm-dev] Make LLD output COFF relocatable object file (like ELF's -r does). How much work is required to implement this?
kyra via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Oct 10 01:36:57 PDT 2017
TL;DR:
I'm trying to evaluate if LLD can be used with GHC (Glasgow Haskell
Compiler) on Windows.
Haskell binary code is usually deployed in "packages". A package
typically provides static library(ies) and optionally – shared
library(ies) and/or prelinked ('ld -r') object file. The latter is the
best way to satisfy GHC runtime linker, since it requires no separate
compile/link pass (as shared library requires), and is much faster to
consume by GHC runtime linker than a static library.
Long story:
To prevent linking unused code GHC have always been supported splitting
intermediate assembly which is horribly slow when compiling. Now GHC
supports a direct analogue of '-ffunction-sections' ('-split-sections'
in GHC parlance), which dramatically improves compile times, but now BFD
linker is horribly slow on the files with a *lot* of sections. In the
*nix world they have gold linker, in the windows world we have nothing
other than GNU BFD ld ATM.
GHC on Windows uses Mingw tools and LLD doesn't fit into Mingw ecosystem
yet (I know that some support have creeped into LLD recently, but it is
still far from being complete), moreover, when assemling GHC native
codegen output, GNU assembler produces peculiar non-standard COFF files
(with 0x11 relocations), and finally binutils doesn't (and probably
never would) support bigobj extension in the 32-bit case.
Windows GHC relies heavily on GCC, especially it's runtime system's code
is full of gnu-isms, but Clang has a unique ability to combine gnu-ish
frontend with ms-ish backend, I've experimented a bit and have concluded
that replacing GCC as a C compiler/system assembler with Clang in GHC on
Windows is very much doable.
GHC uses object file combining ('ld -r') when C stubs/wrappers
generation is triggered, these stubs/wrappers are compiled with gcc and
are linked back into the 'main' object file. In the MS world this use
case can easily be satisfied by packing the object files into a library
since MS linker looks into libraries both when linking final exe/dll
*and/or* creating another library (i.e. when creating another library it
unpacks all object files from all libraries it is fed with, and repacks
them into the output library, llvm-lib doesn't support this ATM, and
AFAIR LLVM developers are aware of this).
But my question is motivated by another important use-case: when
packaging compiled Haskell code it is very desirable to provide not only
a static library, but also to partially link this library's object
modules into the one big object file, which can further be consumed by
GHC runtime linker. GHC runtime linker can link binary code in any form,
but linking static library is much slower than linking the single object
file.
On 10/10/2017 2:39 AM, Rui Ueyama wrote:
> As far as I know, no one has ever tried to add the -r option to the
> lld COFF linker. It shouldn't be super hard to add it to the COFF
> linker, but from our experience of implementing it to lld ELF linker,
> I can say that it was tricky and somewhat fragile. We had to add a
> number of small pieces of code here and there.
>
> We wanted to support it in the ELF linker because that's an existing
> feature and people are actually using it. Otherwise, we wouldn't have
> added it. So, what is the motivation of adding the feature to the COFF
> linker? I don't think MSVC linker supports it.
>
> (For those who are not familiar with -r, the option is to make the
> linker emit a .o file instead of an executable or a shared library.
> With the option, you can combine multiple object files into one object
> file.)
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:02 AM, kyra via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How far are we from having '-r' in the LLD COFF linker?
> I'd try to implement this if not too much effort is required.
> Any suggestions and/or pointers?
>
> Cheers,
> Kyra
>
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