[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] Modernizing LLVM Coding Style Guide and enforcing Clang-tidy
Piotr Padlewski via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Jan 9 10:10:01 PST 2017
2017-01-09 17:24 GMT+01:00 David Blaikie <dblaikie at gmail.com>:
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> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:17 AM Piotr Padlewski via cfe-dev <
> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
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>> Are there any other comments about changing style guide?
>> I would like to add points like
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>> - prefer "using' instead of "typedef"
>> - use default member initialization
>> struct A {
>> void *ptr = nullptr;
>> };
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>> (instead of doing it in constructor)
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>> - use default, override, delete
>> - skip "virtual" with override
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>> The last point is to get to consensus with
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>> push_back({first, second})
>> or
>> emplace_back(first ,second);
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> It might be a bit noisy, but I'd be inclined to start a separate thread
> for each of these on llvm-dev with a clear subject line relevant to each
> one. So they don't get lost and some of them don't get drowned out by the
> discussion of others, etc.
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Sure, I can do it, but at least now I don't see much of attention of people
to any of the subject, so I would not like to start 5 empty threads.
I guess as long as the thread is not getting noisy I will keep only one.
Does it sound ok?
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>> 2016-12-30 12:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Padlewski <piotr.padlewski at gmail.com>:
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>> 2016-12-30 11:34 GMT+01:00 Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at gmail.com>:
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>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:08 AM Piotr Padlewski via cfe-dev <
>> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
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>> Thanks for very accurate responses.
>> - I totally agree what Dave and Chandler said about explicit and implicit
>> operations, this is what I meant my first email.
>> I believe there are places like
>> v.emplace_back(A, B);
>> istead of
>> v.push_back(make_pair(A, B));b
>> That can make code simpler.
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>> Do you have examples? The only ones i can come up with are the ones where
>> the push_back variant literally can't compile because the type isn't
>> movable.
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>> Perhaps it would be useful to break down categories of can happen here...
>>
>> Case 1: there is one object already -- this is a *conversion* of a type.
>> - If the author of the conversion made it *implicit*, then
>> 'v.push_back(x)' just works.
>> - If the author of the conversion made it *explicit* I would like to see
>> the name of the type explicitly: 'v.push_back(T(x))'.
>>
>> Case 2a: There is a collection of objects that are being composed into an
>> aggregate. We don't have any interesting logic in the constructor, it takes
>> an initializer list.
>> - This should work with 'v.push_back({a, b, c})'
>> - If it doesn't today, we can fix the type's constructors so that it does.
>> - Using 'emplace_back' doesn't help much -- you still need {}s to form
>> the std::initializer_list in many cases. Pair and tuple are somewhat
>> unusual in not requiring them.
>>
>> This sounds extremely reasonable.
>>
>> Case 2b: A specific constructor needs to be called with an argument list.
>> These arguments are not merely being aggregated but are inputs to a
>> constructor that contains logic.
>> - This is analogous to a case called out w.r.t. '{...}' syntax in the
>> coding standards[1]
>> - Similar to that rule, I would like to see a *call to the constructor*
>> rather than hiding it behind 'emplace_back' as this is a function with
>> interesting logic.
>> - That means i would write T(a, b, c) anyways, and 'v.push_back(T(a, b,
>> c))' works.
>>
>> Calling emplace_back with 0 or multiple arguments is a clear way of
>> saying "this constructor takes multiple arguments".
>> We can do it with initializer list with easy way like:
>> v.emplace_back() == v.push_back({})
>> v.emplace_back(a, b ,c) == v.push_back({a, b, c})
>>
>> I personally never liked the initializer syntax because of tricky casees
>> like:
>>
>> vector<string> v{{"abc", "def"}};
>> Which is equivalent of
>> vector<string> v = {std::string("abc", "def")};
>> That will call std::string ctor with 2 iterators likely crashing, and
>> putting same string might gives us empty string.
>>
>> In this case programmer probably meant
>> std::vector<std:string> v({"abc", "def"});
>> or
>> std::vector<std::string> v = {"abc", "def"};
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>> But this case is not possible to mess up with push_back (in the case of
>> vector<vector<string>> or something). At least I hope it is not.
>> So avoiding braces is my personal preference. It is fine for me if we
>> would choose to prefer 'v.push_back({a, b, c})' instead of 'v.emplace_back(a,
>> b, c)', ofc as long as most of the community would prefer first form to
>> the second :)
>>
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>> [1]: http://llvm.org/docs/CodingStandards.html#do-not-
>> use-braced-initializer-lists-to-call-a-constructor
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>> Case 3: Passing objects of type 'T' through 'push_back' fails to compile
>> because they cannot be copied or moved.
>> - You *must* use 'emplace_back' here. No argument (obviously).
>>
>> My experience with LLVM code and other codebases is that case 3 should be
>> extremely rare. The intersection of "types that cannot be moved or copied"
>> and "types that you put into containers" is typically small.
>>
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>> Anyways, I don't disagree with this point with a tiny fix:
>>
>> I think in cases like this we can leave it for judgement of contributor.
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>> *or reviewer*. ;]
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>> I continue to think exceptions can be made in rare cases when folks have
>> good reasons. But I expect this to be quite rare. =]
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>>
>> Piotr
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