[llvm-dev] We really need more community involvement with GSoC

[James Molloy via llvm-dev]

Hmm. But we already use IRC, we don't already use Slack (as a community).
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 at 10:57, vivek pandya <vivekvpandya at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to insist more to use slack.com due to persistent storage of
> message it can be useful to create 'Minutes of Meeting' kind of thing and
> later on shared on mailing list so that all community can be aware of that,
> when some serious discussion has happened during 'office hours'.
>
> *Vivek Pandya*
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1000 to all of this fwiw.
>>
>> I'm happy to chat with some folks and send out a concrete proposal?
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 9:07 PM James Molloy via llvm-dev <
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the idea of dedicated "newbie hour - no question is too basic"
>>> drop in sessions is fantastic. +1 for that.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 at 11:26 Bruce Hoult via llvm-dev <
>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I work for one of those "top companies", but LLVM is only one of the
>>>> back-ends I'm working with so I have only pretty narrow knowledge of it
>>>> (but ok knowledge of compilers in general, I hope).
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to post easy to understand answers to those beginner
>>>> questions when I have time (there was one yesterday, about constant
>>>> evaluating things like sqrt() in the front end).
>>>>
>>>> One concern I have is that although these basic questions often have no
>>>> answers on the mailing list, any number of people might well have replied
>>>> to them privately, in an effort to both be helpful to the questioner, and
>>>> also to "maintain the signal to noise ratio" of the mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Of course I don't know if this is really happening or not, but if it is
>>>> then the wasted duplication of effort is probably worse than a few extra
>>>> messages on the list. Which is why I copy the list as well.
>>>>
>>>> The "office hours" idea would definitely help with all this, if
>>>> beginners can in fact be encouraged to use it.
>>>>
>>>> I'd probably use it myself, as I'm a novice to many aspects of LLVM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:47 PM, vivek pandya via llvm-dev <
>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Note : I do not mean to compare or criticize any organization. This is
>>>>> based on my experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have subscribed llvm-dev list for last 6 months and I follow most of
>>>>> the thread when it makes sense to me. I have observed that some times some
>>>>> mails do not get any kind of response. Mostly novice students and some one
>>>>> trying to use LLVM in the research have many questions.
>>>>> I respect all community members and I understand that working for top
>>>>> companies or colleges keep them very busy. So when I go on IRC same things
>>>>> happens ( I keep my self up late night to sync with timezone so I get many
>>>>> people to ask on IRC).
>>>>>  Personally if I stretch my self and read some older mail chains, I am
>>>>> able to get answers to my questions 80% of time, but some time I just get
>>>>> stuck and some times to understand output and "why it has happen so" a
>>>>> novice may require help from you people.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just one suggestion that is not particular to GSoC but it
>>>>> applies in general. Actually Drupal.org uses this idea. See this
>>>>> https://www.drupal.org/core-office-hours
>>>>> Every Monday and Wednesday they keep a session on IRC  (just textual
>>>>> chat) dedicated to novice student may be an hour long or so. To keep main
>>>>> channel undisturbed we may have a separate channel. (or slack.com )
>>>>>  The time chosen for both days are very different so that they can cover
>>>>> may time zones. 2 or 3 experienced community members attends this session
>>>>> and answers to the each kind of questions from participant. This will help
>>>>> students and researchers very much. Specially if they are not able to
>>>>> progress by their own.
>>>>> I have been benefited from this on Drupal. LLVM is more complex code
>>>>> base than Drupal. And I believe that your 60 minutes may save their days.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Vivek
>>>>>
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