[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] GitHub anyone?
James Y Knight via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Wed Jun 1 12:25:33 PDT 2016
IMO, if we're switching to git, we should just be clear up front that all
committers will be expected to switch to git as well -- or at least, if
they want to use something else (e.g. mercurial's git bridge/etc), that
it's their own problem.
It is truly NOT that big an imposition to require the use of git. And
knowing how to use git at at least a basic level is an important skill for
a lot of software development now -- no matter what LLVM does, so I don't
feel bad for making anyone spend time learning how to use it.
I really don't think that promising and requiring that svn-client using
people (especially committers: read-only access seems a lot less
potentially problematic) will keep getting a good development experience
after the migration is a good idea. I mean, if SVN also happens to work
with the chosen hosting/workflow in the end, that's fine, I guess. But, I
feel that should be considered a "if it works, that's okay, but it's not
recommended, and is not guaranteed" kind of thing.
Making that a requirement locks us into the use of github as the primary
repository: no other git hosting has svn support, afaik.
It means we can't introduce any workflows that wouldn't work well for svn
users -- or if we do, that such users will probably complain anew when that
And if github's svn bridge turns out to have fatal problems, do we then
abandon the migration?
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Aaron Ballman via cfe-dev <
cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Renato Golin via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> > On 1 June 2016 at 17:02, John Criswell <jtcriswel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Do you have a set of volunteers lined up to do such a migration? Getting
> >> people willing to do the migration will obviously be key, and that was
> >> one thing I didn't see in the original email.
> > Hi John,
> > Well, first we need to know if people are in favour, then if the
> > migration won't bring any serious problem, and then we can think of a
> > migration plan. :)
> > So far, it seems people are mostly in favour, with a few that reported
> > being locked into SVN. I had anticipated that, and have proposed
> > GitHub's SVN integration, which allows read-write access, so it should
> > be mostly ok. We need more tests on that side to be sure, though.
> > The biggest problem we're facing right now is how to sync the repos.
> > The existing llvm-repos format with all projects as sub-modules seem
> > to be a good candidate, but I still haven't seen a consensus on how
> > we'd do that.
> > About the migration plan, most people seem to agree a step-by-step
> > process is necessary. So, first we move to git-only, possibly with
> > sub-modules,
> Despite people's reservations of a git-only repository? I mean, we
> still don't know that this will even work for people who wish to stay
> with SVN. I am really not comfortable with this decision based on "it
> should be mostly ok" from above, but maybe I am misunderstanding
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