[llvm-dev] RFC: Constant folding math functions for long double
James Molloy via llvm-dev
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon Apr 4 11:30:50 PDT 2016
Hi,
If you're interested, include/bits/random.tcc:3312
(std::generate_canonical()). I wish I could just point people at libc++,
but that's outside of my control. As for fixing the library, that horse
bolted some time ago.
Cheers,
James
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 at 18:50 Stephen Canon <scanon at apple.com> wrote:
> That sounds like a library issue that qualifies as “somewhat strange”.
> Why does this require a log at all?
>
> – Steve
>
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 10:46 AM, James Molloy via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Joerg,
>
> > IMO if constant folding of transcendental functions makes a significant
> difference for your program, you likely are doing something strange
> already.
>
> Alas it's not as simple as that. Currently, if you declare:
>
> std::uniform_real_distribution<float> x;
>
> LLVM emits two calls to logl() with constant arguments, a fdiv and a
> fptoui.
>
> Libc++'s implementation is consumed and folded much more nicely by LLVM,
> but at the moment anyone comparing LLVM and GCC will think that GCC is
> around 40% better for some workloads.
>
> James
>
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 at 17:49 Reid Kleckner <rnk at google.com> wrote:
>
>> My feeling is that we shouldn't be relying on host long double routines.
>> We're already skating on thin ice by relying on host double and float
>> routines. This is a great way to make the compilation result vary depending
>> on the host, which is something we try to avoid.
>>
>> An optional MPFR dependency would also be pretty painful. I expect it
>> will frequently be missing and will not be exercised by most buildbots.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:59 AM, James Molloy via llvm-dev <
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Clang is currently unable to constant fold calls to math.h functions
>>> such as logl(), expl() etc.
>>>
>>> The problem is that APFloat doesn't have these functions, so Clang is
>>> forced to rely on the host math library. Because long double isn't
>>> portable, we only ever query the host math library for double or float
>>> results.
>>>
>>> I can see three methods for allowing constant folding for types that are
>>> larger than double, some more expensive than others:
>>>
>>> 1. Introduce a dependency on libMPFR, as GCC does. The dependency
>>> could be hard or soft, with a fallback to the current behaviour if it
>>> doesn't exist.
>>> 2. Write the trancendental functions ourselves in APFloat (yuck!)
>>> 3. If the long double format on the compiler host is the same as the
>>> target, use the host library.
>>>
>>> (2) is the hardest. (3) is the easiest, but only works in a subset of
>>> cases and I really don't like the idea of better output when compiling on
>>> one platform compared to another (with equivalent targets).
>>>
>>> What do people think about (1)? Or is this completely out of the
>>> question?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> James
>>>
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