[llvm-dev] RFC: Introducing an LLVM Community Code of Conduct

Karen Shaeffer via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Oct 13 12:43:40 PDT 2015


On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 08:20:33PM +0100, Renato Golin via llvm-dev wrote:
> On 13 October 2015 at 19:30, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at gmail.com> wrote:
> > For some of the reasons we at least need to make it clear the scope:
> > http://adainitiative.org/2014/02/18/howto-design-a-code-of-conduct-for-your-community/
> 
> Seems like a very personal opinion, and most things in there are
> relevant to physical gatherings, only scratching the surface of
> virtual communities. I don't think that should be canon to anything we
> do, including the special emphasis on physical harassment and
> unilateral harsh consequences. These are critical to solving physical
> altercations, yes, but on the list or IRC? On our conferences? On our
> socials? Really?
> 
> If we're just preparing for the future, maybe we should also consider
> how a potential zombie apocalypses would offend brain-loving people
> today.
> 
> The concept of harassment includes verbal, mental, physical, logical,
> or anything else that still doesn't exist, we don't need to be
> specific. Someone said earlier, the more specific we are now, the more
> we'll argue about it. We don't need that.
> 
> I also don't understand why specifically the Django CoC is so
> important for us to follow.
> 
> cheers,
> --renato

Hi Renato,
I sense you feel passionate about this issue. I read the Django CoC. And I
personally do not feel there is anything in there that is overarching nor
exclusionary. I don't think such a CoC would limit reasonable expression on
this list nor more generally in the LLVM community in any way. And it clearly
invites all individuals to feel welcome. I'm trying to understand what your
specific objections are.

thanks,
Karen
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