[LLVMdev] MemoryDependenceAnalysis reports dependencies between NoAlias pointers

Félix Cloutier felixcca at yahoo.ca
Thu May 21 17:05:23 PDT 2015


> Le 2015-05-21 à 17:19:25, Daniel Berlin <dberlin at dberlin.org> a écrit :
> 
> Interesting. FWIW, memory ssa will make this easier (and i'm just
> getting back to adding a ton of tests for it after having my time
> eaten for a while. It should go in in a few weeks).
> http://reviews.llvm.org/D7864
> 
> You would just look at loads, and the immediate definition of the
> MemoryUse on the load will tell you whether it is dependent on a call
> or not
> if it's a call, it's dependent on that call. If it's something else,
> A. It is not dependent on any  calls in between that thing and your load
> B. It's killed by that something else, regardless of whether any call
> before it would also kill it :)

This is extremely relevant to what I'm doing. I was using MemDep because that's what came closest to memory SSA. I think I'll grab the patch right away.

I'm still pretty new to LLVM and just starting to figure things out, and this is just a hobby thing (no corporate resources to back my project), but if you would like feedback, I can probably give some.

Félix

>>> Le 2015-05-21 à 14:53:44, Daniel Berlin <dberlin at dberlin.org> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Félix Cloutier <felixcca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a custom alias analysis pass that enforces that pointers from different address spaces do not alias, and I'm using MemoryDependenceAnalysis to, well, figure out dependence analysis.
>>>> 
>>>> The AA pass is extremely simple, it only checks the address space of pointers, returns NoAlias if they're different, and delegates otherwise. It is the last alias analysis pass added to my PassManager (basically, after BasicAA only). As far as I can check with breakpoints and logging, it appears to work as intended. MemoryDependenceAnalysis often appears in the call stack when my alias method is called, and it does return NoAlias appropriately.
>>>> 
>>>> However, in another custom module pass that I have, I'm observing that MemDep reports dependences between loads and stores of pointers to different address spaces, despite my AA pass. For instance, an AA request against these parameters returns NoAlias:
>>>> 
>>>> %7 = inttoptr i64 %4 to i64 addrspace(1)*
>>>> %9 = getelementptr inbounds %struct.mystruct, %struct.mystruct* %0, i64 0, i32 7, i32 0
>>>> 
>>>> But then, memdep suggests that there is a clobber dependency between these two instructions:
>>>> 
>>>> %10 = load i64, i64* %9, align 8
>>>> store i64 %6, i64 addrspace(1)* %7, align 8
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I would expect that since the locations cannot alias, the load cannot depend on the store. When used from my module pass, >MemoryDependenceAnalysis never ends up calling my AA pass, but I would imagine that this is because GVN or some other pass already did all the >queries that I do and that they are cached.
>>> 
>>> First, you should step through memdep and see exactly what is going on.
>>> You can invalidate the memdep cache if you need to for these pointers,
>>> which should cause your AA to be called.
>>> 
>>> Second, a bit more info is needed.
>>> 
>>> On which of these pointers and what memdep functions are you calling?
>>> 
>>> (and can you attach the full .ll file?)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Note that memorydependence's main client is GVN, and they have a
>>> pretty incestuous relationship.
>>> 
>>> So the API may not give you what you really want in some cases.
>>> For example, iit will return load-load clobbers in noalias cases
>>> sometimes so that gvn can use them for load widening, etc.
>>> 
>>> But it's not at all clear that you are hitting one of these cases.
>> 
>> 





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