[LLVMdev] [RFC] Embedding command line options in bitcode (PR21471)
Jim Grosbach
grosbach at apple.com
Wed Nov 19 19:00:43 PST 2014
> On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Bob Wilson <bob.wilson at apple.com <mailto:bob.wilson at apple.com>> wrote:
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>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com <mailto:chandlerc at google.com>> wrote:
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>> So I am deeply concerned about the direction this is taking. I'm trying to catch up on the thread, but I think Chris already highlighted my issue:
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>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Chris Bieneman <cbieneman at apple.com <mailto:cbieneman at apple.com>> wrote:
>>>> 1. How do we make sure we continue to be able to use the command line options we've been using for llc and other tools?
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>> In discussions about the new cl::opt API I believe the general idea was that most of the options expressed using cl::opt are actually only relevant as debug options, so I think one big part of this work is really going to be identifying a subset of the current options which are actually relevant to expose in the IR.
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>> I think this is critical.
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>> The whole idea of cl::opt API is for *debugging* options. IE, not supported, expected variations on how passes behave. Those should always be controlled (at the LLVM API layer) through constructors and parameters, not through a side-layer.
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>> There are parts of LLVM currently abusing the cl::opt mechanism to control fundamental functionality, but we should *absolutely* not bake any part of that or support for that into the IR! We should go find and fix those places to use reasonable APIs. Once we have that, I am very supportive of getting a good system for transmitting these options in bitcode and such in order to better support LTO. However, I think that in essentially every case there are going to be two options:
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>> 1) Turn these options into function attributes because they can reasonably live as function attributes and different variations can co-exist within a module.
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> I have heard several people express strong opinions that even when those options are represented as function attributes, we will want a mechanism to override those with llc command line options for experimentation and debugging. If so, they will still need to exist as cl::opt (or some other equivalent). Are you suggesting otherwise?
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> Yes and no.
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> You might have a debug override option using cl::opt (or whatever we replace it with).
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> Or you might have an LLC option (which might be implemented with cl::opt but is categorically different from the debugging options in common LLVM libraries) that explicitly constructs passes with options, and the passes might skip the function attribute when given a specific override.
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> Probably lots of other alternative ways of achieving this goal I haven't thought of really....
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> My point is that regardless of what technique you use to override options, the things that can be serialized through the IR should *not* include debugging only 'cl::opt' options in the common LLVM libraries.
I think I agree (I’m one of those “several people” Bob mentioned) with this. Depends on which options you consider debugging only and what that implies for when/how they interact with the rest of the stuff. Maybe a specific example or two on each side of the divide to help make sure we’re all defining terms in a somewhat compatible way?
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>> 2) Keep the options as module-level options, but insist that they match for all modules being merged in LTO.
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>> 3) (very rare) have clean, well specified merge semantics to merge different options from different modules in LTO. I think these only come up quite rarely. The only really good example I know of would be something like "library link dependencies" where it is a list that we clearly just take the union to merge.
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>>>> 3. Where should the command line options or module/function attributes be stored once they are read out from the IR?
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>> My suggestion would be the OptionStore that I proposed here: http://reviews.llvm.org/D6207 <http://reviews.llvm.org/D6207>
>> Not to knock the option store (i quite like it), but I think that should be reserved for the cl::opt-style (but with your new API which is way better) debugging options, and never touch the IR._______________________________________________
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