[LLVMdev] [RFC] Removing static initializers for command line options
Chandler Carruth
chandlerc at google.com
Tue Aug 19 22:24:18 PDT 2014
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Pete Cooper <peter_cooper at apple.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> FWIW, I largely agree with Rafael's position here, at least in the near
> term.
>
> The nice thing about it is that even if we don't stay there forever, it is
> a nice incremental improvement over the current state of the world, and we
> can actually be mindful going forward of whether the restriction it imposes
> (an inability to use "internal" knobs from within a library context that
> have multiple different library users in a single address space) proves to
> be a significant on-going burden.
>
> I actually disagree with this for two reasons.
>
> The first is that if there are going to be changes to the code anyway to
> remove static initializers, and we can move the storage to the pass at the
> same time, the we should make just one change and not two.
>
No one is suggesting otherwise that I have seen? At least, my
interpretation (perhaps incorrect, I've not had time to read all of this
thread in 100% detail) was that the removal of static initializers wouldn't
require changing every cl::opt variable.
>
> The second reason is that in most cases these knobs should not be globals.
> If I had a piece of data (not a CL::opt) in global scope, only used by one
> pass, then I'm sure people would question why it's a global at all and move
> it inside the class. We're treating cl::opt as special here when there's no
> reason for the opt or the storage to be global.
>
> We frown upon the use of globals, otherwise LLVM would be littered with
> them like many other C++ code bases. I don't think cl::opts should be
> special at all in this respect.
>
Sure, you're arguing against the core design of cl::opt. However, we have
it, and it wasn't an accident or for lack of other patterns that we chose
it.
For example, we don't require all constants to be per-pass, and instead
have per-file constants. Rafael is suggesting that one use case for cl::opt
global variables is, in essence, a constant that is somewhat easier for a
developer of LLVM (*not* a user) to change during debugging and active
development. I don't think the desire for convenience and only supporting
the default value in production contexts are completely invalid.
Once you factor those in, we have a tradeoff. Historically, the tradeoff
was made in the direction of convenience, relying on a very narrow
interpretation of the use cases. It isn't clear to me that we should,
today, make a different tradeoff. It certainly doesn't make sense why you
would gate removing static initializers (a clear win) on forcing a change
on a core design pattern within LLVM which not all of the developers are
really supportive of (at this point).
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