[LLVMdev] [RFC] Raising minimum required Visual Studio version to 2013 for trunk

David Blaikie dblaikie at gmail.com
Mon Aug 18 16:48:21 PDT 2014


For my money: variadic templates and some bug I hit when trying to use
forward_as_tuple.
On Aug 18, 2014 4:02 PM, "Aaron Ballman" <aaron at aaronballman.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Chris Bieneman <beanz at apple.com> wrote:
> > I’d like to propose raising the minimum required compiler for the LLVM &
> Clang trunks for Visual Studio to MSVC 2013.
> >
> > Doing this will allow us to take advantage of a bunch of C++11 features
> that are not supported by MSVC 2012. According to MSDN (
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh567368.aspx) the list is:
> >
> > * Non-static data member initializers
> > * Variadic templates
> > * Initializer lists
> > * Default template arguments for function templates
> > * Expression SFINAE
> > * Alias templates
> > * Delegating constructors
> > * Explicit conversion operators
> > * Raw string literals
> > * Defaulted and deleted functions
> >
> > Questions, comments, concerns, general feedback?
>
> We shifted the minimum MSVC version to 2012 in January of this year,
> and have run into only a few issues where C++11 features exist in MSVC
> 2013 but not MSVC 2012. So I'm wondering what problem this solves in
> practice for our code base?
>
> Personally, I use MSVC 2013 instead of 2012. But I would hesitate to
> switch to 2013 as the minimum supported version just yet. It's been
> out for less than two years and until "14" drops, it is the newest
> version of the compiler. When we made the switch, the goal was to
> support only the last two versions of MSVC, and I don't see any strong
> evidence to support expediting that schedule. I think this is a great
> plan for when "14" is officially released.
>
> ~Aaron
>
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