[LLVMdev] Quad-Core ARMv7 Build Slave Seeks Noble Purpose

[Sean Silva]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Mikael Lyngvig <mikael at lyngvig.org>wrote:
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>> It wouldn't take me more than an hour or two to do the format conversion.
>>  It is rather trivial, actually.  Just say the word and I'm on to it like a
>> starving bee.  I guess I should get used to using the Sphinx layout; I'm
>> simply more familiar with the format I use on my own websites.
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>> Have you guys ever considered making a less formal wiki for LLVM
>> documentation - a place where tiny snippets and tricks could be stored?  A
>> place that anybody could contribute to in such a way that only the Wiki
>> editors could accept or reject a proposed change.  Kind of like Wikipedia.
>> http://wiki.llvm.org.  If you are short on resources, I'd be happy to
>> volunteer for the task of co-Wiki-editor (this doesn't require as big
>> knowledge of LLVM as you'd think; it is mostly a matter of rejecting
>> attempts to defame the site and such).  If any topic in the Wiki became too
>> complex or too important, somebody could get started on writing the
>> appropriate coherent, user-friendly documentation that could be merged into
>> the main branch of documents.
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> Also, I'm not sure how many such "tips and tricks" or "tiny snippets"
> there can be (and I'm cautious about how quickly they will go out of date).
> It's honestly probably easier for LLVM developers to edit files in the
> repository (purely from a workflow perspective).
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That "Also," at the beginning was a leftover when I switched the paragraph
order. Please ignore it.

-- Sean Silva


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> My biggest reason for opposing such a wiki is that it is decoupled from
> the community, which is centered on the mailing lists. A person doesn't
> have to get on the mailing lists to submit an edit to such a wiki, which
> means that they won't become part of the community whereas in order for
> them to contribute to docs/, they have to reach out to the community and
> send a patch, which is a gateway drug to further involvement.
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>> What if we renamed the ARM document to "TipsForBuildingOnARM" instead of
>> "HowToBuildOnARM"?
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> We currently don't have an easy way to serve a redirect to the new page,
> so for the moment we can't rename it (URL's should never break). This is <
> http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=14714>. Actually now that I think
> about it maybe we can do it with a dummy html file with a <meta> tag with
> `http-equiv`? Finding a working setup for that is probably a better use of
> your time than reformatting. One other page that is in dire need of a
> rename is clang/docs/Tooling.rst, which is actually "choosing the right
> interface for your application".
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> -- Sean Silva
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>> -- Mikael
>> -- Apprentice LLVM Tech Writer.
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>> 2013/11/17 Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com>
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>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Mikael Lyngvig <mikael at lyngvig.org>wrote:
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>>>> Thanks for spotting those errors!  Fixed.
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>>>> If you feel that this doc should be part of the LLVM documentation,
>>>> perhaps in a revised form, just let me know.  I am willing to convert it
>>>> into reST and also to go through a peer review, but I simply cannot spend
>>>> hundreds of hours munging about, rewriting, and retesting over and over as
>>>> I am already busy on other documentation and other sub-projects.
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>>> If it would require a format conversion, it's not a big deal. However,
>>> it would be nice to add a link to an appropriate document. Probably just
>>> tack it on at the end of HowToBuildOnARM (which should be called
>>> AgglomerationOfTipsForBuildingOnARM) with a sentence of description.
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>>> -- Sean Silva
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>>>> -- Mikael
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>>>> 2013/11/17 Dmitri Gribenko <gribozavr at gmail.com>
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>>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Mikael Lyngvig <mikael at lyngvig.org>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> http://llvm.lyngvig.org/Articles/How-to-Setup-an-Arch-Linux-Buildbot-for-LLVM
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>>>>> > Notice: You only need Ninja for the test build; none of the official
>>>>> LLVM builders use Ninja as far as I know.
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>>>>> My buildbots use ninja.
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>>>>> > Please notice that you must specify the absolute path to ninja,
>>>>> otherwise CMake can't figure out where it is located.
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>>>>> Strange, I never had to do this.  I just put 'ninja' binary into my
>>>>> PATH.
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>>>>> > pushd llvm-trunk/tools > /dev/null
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>>>>> This does not look correct to me, because you are not entering the
>>>>> 'clang' directory.  Similarly, for compiler-rt below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dmitri
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>>>>> --
>>>>> main(i,j){for(i=2;;i++){for(j=2;j<i;j++){if(!(i%j)){j=0;break;}}if
>>>>> (j){printf("%d\n",i);}}} /*Dmitri Gribenko <gribozavr at gmail.com>*/
>>>>>
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