[LLVMdev] Obsolete PTX is NOT completely removed in 3.2 release

[Justin Holewinski]

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Anton Korobeynikov <
anton at korobeynikov.info> wrote:

> Pawel,
>
> We all understand that you're pretty new to release process, etc., but
> I think you should understand the implications of your actions.
>
> You just created a lot of harm for really huge pile of users - the
> ones who downloads the tarball via some automated build system and
> rely on the known good checksum. This includes, but not limited to to
> the users of FreeBSD, Gentoo, etc.
>
> Even worse, you did this silently. Without any announcement, with any
> e-mail to llvm-dev, etc. And all this at the same time when people do
> wide announcement for e.g. 30 mins of restart of buildbot master ro 10
> minute restart of web server.
>
> What you did it definitely inacceptable for release manager of such
> big project as LLVM. So, may I kindly ask you to revert the tarball
> back within next 24 hours an write and entry to New section on the
> website. If you want to include the changes name them 3.2.1 or 3.2a
> and write an entry on the website. This is the only way how you can
> fix all the weird stuff you done in a moment.
>
> All: If anyone has the old taball + sig please let me know where I can
> download them to replace the current ones if Pawel will fail to do so.
>

Aren't they available on svn?

http://llvm.org/svn/llvm-project/www-releases/trunk/3.2


>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Pawel Wodnicki <root at 32bitmicro.com>
> wrote:
> > On 1/11/2013 2:51 PM, Justin Holewinski wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Pawel Wodnicki <root at 32bitmicro.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/11/2013 2:40 PM, Brooks Davis wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 09:33:17PM +0100, Benjamin Kramer wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11.01.2013, at 21:31, Justin Holewinski
> >>>>> <justin.holewinski at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Benjamin Kramer
> >>>>>> <benny.kra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11.01.2013, at 07:36, ????????? (Wei-Ren Chen)
> >>>>>> <chenwj at iis.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Pawel,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> PTX already be replaced with NVPTX. However, PTX subdirectory
> >>>>>>> still sit in lib/Target in 3.2 release. Do you think update
> >>>>>>> the release tarball is a good idea? Also could you remove it
> >>>>>>> from the trunk?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please do not, under no circumstances, change the 3.2 release
> >>>>>> tarballs at this point. They are mirrored around the world now
> >>>>>> with cryptographic hashes and signatures. Changing them will
> >>>>>> break things for many people, especially for an extremely
> >>>>>> minor thing like an empty directory.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm not sure if Pawel's tarball change should be reverted now
> >>>>>> as it already caused uproar, so changing it back might only
> >>>>>> make matters worse.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The tarballs were changed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> r172208
> >>>>
> >>>> I finally updated the FreeBSD ports yesterday and today a user
> >>>> complained about distfile changes.  IMO, this revision should be
> >>>> reverted or all the other BSDs will have to chase checksums as
> >>>> well.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you really want to remove the directory, ship a 3.2.1 tarball
> >>>> rather than screwing all the downstream consumers who's
> >>>> infrastructure exists to detect trojan'd tarballs.
> >>>
> >>> Tarball is signed, it is not trjoan.
> >>> Your infrastructure should be able to deal with it?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Many of these environments rely on checking against a known-good
> checksum.
> >> If a tarball is replaced at the source, that checksum changes.  Once a
> >> release is cut, that particular release should never change.  If a
> change
> >> is necessary, some sort of point release (3.2.1) is preferable, so
> anyone
> >> wanting 3.2 still gets the old binary with the old checksum.
> >
> > Current process does not have any provision for any more releases
> > beyond 3.2.
> >
> > Frankly, anybody who depends on the release should have been
> > involved in it during RC1,RC2 or RC3 at the latest.
> >
> > Paweł
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Brooks
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Paweł
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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>
>
> --
> With best regards, Anton Korobeynikov
> Faculty of Mathematics and Mechanics, Saint Petersburg State University
>



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Thanks,

Justin Holewinski
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