[LLVMdev] Build Failure
Chandler Carruth
chandlerc at google.com
Wed Jan 2 14:05:47 PST 2013
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:50 PM, <dag at cray.com> wrote:
> David Blaikie <dblaikie at gmail.com> writes:
>
> >>> There's little effort to keep the GCC build warning clean,
> >>
> >> Why? It seems like a pertty important compiler to support.
> >
> > It has some silly warnings (at least in some versions) that we don't
> > want to workaround/suppress. Arguably we could have the build system
> > check version information & suppress certain known-bad warnings on
> > specific GCC versions.
>
> That would be ideal, but honestly in my experience there are very few
> gcc warnings that should be ignored. Which ones do you think should be
> ignored?
>
The implementations of -Wuninitialized, -Wreturn-type, and a few other GCC
warnings are extremely aggressive. They have high false positive rates with
few benefits. We regularly keep -Wreturn-type working despite this (see all
of the llvm_unreachable after switch statements), but the fix to silence
GCC's -Wuninitialized false positives actively degrades the quality of the
code -- it forces dead stores to variables. These dead stores are a waste
and prevent tools like Valgrind from finding very real bugs in the logic
which cause a variable to be left uninitialized.
I'm a big fan of -Werror, but only when the warnings actually make sense.
There are many older compilers (both Clang and GCC) which have false
positives in their warnings which should *not* be fixed because the code is
in fact correct. Even with the latest GCC, we would need to suppress some
warnings due to a fundamentally different approach to when and where the
warning is appropriate.
> > Honestly we need to cleanup the buildbot infrastructure in general.
> > That's a work in progress. David Dean's bringing up the new
> > phase-based build infrastructure & my hope is that we'll use the
> > transition to a separate buildmaster running that infrastructure as a
> > chance to hold a higher bar for builders/slaves and take some time to
> > really assess where/how we'll allocate our build resources, including
> > things like building with -Werror, C++11, etc.
>
> What kind of higher bar? I'm interested in contributing resources for a
> build slave (particularly for -Werror) but I can't guarantee 100%
> uptime. What will be the requirements for a build slave?
>
> >> This is with 4.7.1, BTW.
> >
> > & your -Werror build of Clang+LLVM is otherwise clean apart from that?
>
> I'm not sure since I didn't build with -k. I patched the warning and
> now it's building. I'll commit the fix if everything works.
>
> -David
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