[LLVMdev] [cfe-dev] Developer meeting videos up

[Samuel Crow]

Hello LLVM Developers,

Here's a definite "me too" letter also.  My programming partner and I were planning on coming together in the same car for a 3 day drive there and another 3 day drive back... except that his wife gave birth about 2 or 3 weeks before the conference and he had to stay with her.  SInce I couldn't afford the gas for the trip myself that meant I couldn't come either.

I know that several flavors of BSD have made Clang their default compiler and at least one Linux distro in the works is planning on doing likewise.  Clang is one of the hottest cross-platform projects that open-source has to offer in the sense that it offers a plausible alternative to the GCC toolchain.  The possibility of a cross-compiling to a generic bitcode makes it even more valuable since it greatly simplifies the GCC problem of having to have a separate version of GCC or even LLVM-GCC for each platform being compiled for.

Maybe it would be more practical in future conferences for the Apple engineers to pass crib notes to the non-Apple people involved with the projects and just have non-Apple speakers from now on.  This should get around the rule.  I just hope we don't have to sign non-disclosure agreements upon arrival like some developers' conferences I've been to.

Perhaps next year I can come,

--Sam Crow


----- Original Message ----
> From: Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com>
> To: Owen Anderson <resistor at mac.com>
> Cc: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 12:28:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] [cfe-dev] Developer meeting videos up
> 
> On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:32 AM, Owen Anderson wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Chris Lattner wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, we found out at the last minute that Apple has a rule
> >> which prevents its engineers from giving video taped talks or
> >> distributing slides.  We will hold onto the video and slide assets in
> >> case this rule changes in the future.
> >
> >
> > While I'm glad to know we all share similar sentiments on this, lots  
> > of "me too" emails on this list don't seem likely to change  
> > anything.  Is there anyone we can email to express our displeasure  
> > at this decision, so that we might have some vague chance of having  
> > an impact?
> 
> The people enforcing this policy are applying a blanket policy to a  
> situation which (IMO) makes no sense.  I forward every "disgruntled"  
> email on to the people in question.  Since they are the defenders of  
> "Apple's public image", it seems fairly possible that it may  
> eventually sway them.  The more public the griping, the better.
> 
> So yes, 'me too' emails are potentially useful.
> 
> -Chris