[LLVMdev] Removal of IA-64 target
Marcel Moolenaar
xcllnt at mac.com
Thu Jul 16 21:49:14 PDT 2009
On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Chris Lattner wrote:
>
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>
>>
>> BTW: I don't run Linux at all, so no Linux/ia64 support.
>> I can see how that could be a problem for people.
>>
>> Anyway: my case is a weak one and I would understand if the
>> target get axed without considering my email/request...
>
> Hi Marcel,
>
> There are two levels of problems with the IA64 backend. On the first
> level, it has not been maintained for a long time, and isn't able to
> compile hello world to a working app. This is a pretty bad state. On
> the second level, it will take a significant amount of work to make it
> produce code that is actually *fast* for itanium, because of the
> advanced architectural features of the chip.
*nod*
> For us to keep IA64 around (and for it to be minimally useful for your
> work!), I think that the backend should pass most of the simple
> programs in MultiSource/Benchmarks for example. It does *not* need to
> produce amazingly fast code, but the code needs to work. I don't know
> how much performance on IA64 is important to you guys, if GCC is
> currently acceptable, then probably don't have that high of a
> performance bar.
GCC is the best we can do right now for FreeBSD/ia64. That's why LLVM
is of interest. At least to me :-)
However, I do not want to go anywhere near trying to achieve optimal
code generation right now. Getting functional completeness is as high
as I dare to shoot. I presume that it'll be daunting enough.
> Another question is: who is really interested in FreeBSD/ia64? Is HP
> (for example) contributing to this work? If so, perhaps you could
> find help in one of the itanium-friendly companies.
My Montecito machine was donated to me by a German company, but other
than that, it's just me working on an architecture I've grown fond off.
As for help: I don't think there's any interest among Itanium-friendly
companies, unless there's a company that has a vested interest in LLVM.
HP and Intel have their own compilers and if they work on some open
source compiler, it's either GCC or ORC/Open64 AFAICT.
I actually expect more help from LLVM-friendly companies -- if only
with suggestions, feedback and review comments :-)
--
Marcel Moolenaar
xcllnt at mac.com
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