[LLVMdev] PR723: Default To Optimized Build

Eric van Riet Paap eric at vanrietpaap.nl
Mon Mar 27 11:49:24 PST 2006

I think using different settings is generally (and this this case  
too) a bad idea because it makes things more complicated. All  
developers know how to build LLVM. Most (new/casual) users expect a  
certain behaviour and they will judge LLVM on subjective grounds. If  
linking/performance suffers they will continue looking for whatever  
gives them that extra bit of performance. People like me that take  
the time to file bugreport are willing to invest time in LLVM and are  
most probably also willing to recompile a full-debug LLVM.

New users you want provide the best possible feeling, existing  
users / developers should type the additional option.
(hmm, are does that sound too much like Apple's philosophy) :)

 >>> Eric

On Mar 27, 2006, at 9:09 PM, Chris Lattner wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Andrew Lenharth wrote:
>>> Another option is to build an optimized build with assertions  
>>> on.  Do to
>>> local demand, I added a build option 'make ENABLE_OPTIMIZED=1
>>> ENABLE_ASSERTIONS=1' that provides this.
>> How does this compare size and performance wise with a debug build  
>> or a
>> release build?
> I haven't done any scientific measurements.  Here is some educated  
> guessing :)
> I know that a debug build is about 10x bigger and 10x slower than a  
> release build.  Linking also takes about 10x as long with a debug  
> build than it does for a release build.
> With assertions on, linking takes virtually the same time as a  
> release build, I would expect it to also be about the same speed as  
> a release build: a WAG would be within 10%.
> For the people that requested the optimized+assertions build, the  
> big issue was link-time.  Having a huge link time significantly  
> impacted their productivity and they happened to not care about  
> performance for most development.  OTOH, not getting assertions was  
> preventing them from finding bugs.
> The more I think about it, the more I like a configuration that  
> looks like this:
> 'llvm --enable-optimized' should always build a release build.
> LLVM from CVS should always default to a debug build.
> LLVM releases should default to 'release + assertions'.
> Thoughts?
> -Chris
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