[llvm] LLVM Qualification Group - Backlog documentation and Discussion Updates (PR #156184)

Carlos Andres Ramirez via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Sat Aug 30 07:28:52 PDT 2025


https://github.com/CarlosAndresRamirez created https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/156184

I have created backlog file for the Qualification group that contains all the topics currently under discussion  and I have added the new section in the main group's page,  referencing the backlog.

This Backlog will be used as the quick reference for anyone to know what are the current topics under discussion and what priorities have been given to them by the group.

Note for future editors: Add "Last updated:" comment on top of the document, easily keep track of the last updated dates. 

>From 7a8dad156c1342fd0cd2ab7fe7b133827981bb54 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Carlos=20Andr=C3=A9s=20Ram=C3=ADrez=20Cata=C3=B1o?=
 <andres at antai-group.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2025 23:11:31 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Created backlog file for the Qualification group, and
 referenced it from the main group page.

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 llvm/docs/QualGroup.rst                       | 25 +++++++
 .../qual-wg/doc/llvm-qualgroup-backlog.rst    | 74 +++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 99 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 llvm/docs/qual-wg/doc/llvm-qualgroup-backlog.rst

diff --git a/llvm/docs/QualGroup.rst b/llvm/docs/QualGroup.rst
index 63520cf401d3a..5f5b477a56744 100644
--- a/llvm/docs/QualGroup.rst
+++ b/llvm/docs/QualGroup.rst
@@ -1,3 +1,14 @@
+..
+   This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License.
+   SPDX-License-Identifier: CC-BY-3.0
+
+.. _LLVM Qualification Group:
+
+.. CHANGE TRACKER for reference
+.. Purpose: Fixed document location and added Current Topics & Backlog
+.. Author: Carlos Andres Ramirez
+.. Last updated: 2025-08-30 by Carlos Ramirez
+
 ========================
 LLVM Qualification Group
 ========================
@@ -48,6 +59,20 @@ Participation is open to anyone interested. There are several ways to get involv
 
 We welcome contributors from diverse backgrounds, organizations, and experience levels.
 
+Current Topics & Backlog
+========================
+
+Our working group is actively engaged in discussions about the project's
+direction and tackling technical challenges. You can find our current 
+discussions, challenges, and the project backlog in the following 
+document.
+
+:doc:`LLVM-Qualification-Group-Backlog <qual-wg/doc/llvm-qualgroup-backlog>` 
+
+This document serves as our central hub for all ongoing topics and will
+be updated regularly to reflect our progress. We welcome your 
+contributions and feedback.
+
 Meeting Minutes
 ===============
 
diff --git a/llvm/docs/qual-wg/doc/llvm-qualgroup-backlog.rst b/llvm/docs/qual-wg/doc/llvm-qualgroup-backlog.rst
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000000..06cdbe7c9b4fa
--- /dev/null
+++ b/llvm/docs/qual-wg/doc/llvm-qualgroup-backlog.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,74 @@
+..
+  Purpose: Track and document the ongoing discussions and backlog for the LLVM Qualification Group.
+  Author: Carlos Andres Ramirez Catano
+  Last updated: 2025-08-30 by Carlos Andres Ramirez Catano
+
+================================================
+Current Topics & Backlog for Qualification Group
+================================================
+
+This document serves as the central hub for our working group's current
+activities, including ongoing discussions, key challenges, and our 
+prioritized backlog.
+
+This is a living document and will be updated as our work evolves.
+
+---
+
+Ongoing Discussions
+===================
+
+This section outlines topics the working group is currently analyzing or
+deliberating on.
+
+* **Compiler Qualification Language & Standard:**
+    * **Topic:** Defining the initial scope for Clang qualification.
+    * **Challenge:** Deciding between C and C++ for the first qualification target.
+    * **Sub-topics:**
+        * Which C standard (e.g., C11, C23) is most suitable?
+        * Creating an open-source conformance test suite for C seems unfeasible. Any alternatives? Is this a requirement?
+        * Would it suffice to do testing using Alive2?
+        * Criteria for deciding the hardware architecture (target)
+        * Criteria for deciding specific compiler use case and options enabled
+        * Qualification standards usually require a specific, frozen tool version and a controlled development process to be qualified for a particular use case. The continuous development model of most open-source projects doesn't align well with this requirement. Would it be possible to have a Long Term Support (LTS) release of LLVM?
+
+* **Qualification Standard and Tool Confidence Level:**
+    * **Topic:** Defining the initial safety framework scope for qualification (ISO26262, IEC61508, etc).
+    * **Challenge:** We need enough members for each framework we want to include in scope.
+    * **Sub-topics:**
+        * Shall we initially focus on a specific standard, or provide templates for different standards so members can work on their own implementations?
+        * Criteria for choosing tool confidence level
+
+* **Toolchain Integration with Open Source Tools:**
+    * **Topic:** Investigating how to demonstrate confidence in LLVM's development process.
+    * **Challenge:** Bridging the gap between traditional safety-critical processes and open-source development models.
+    * **Sub-topics:**
+        * Can we leverage existing test suites?
+        * Identifying a path to continuous validation within a CI/CD pipeline.
+        * Integrating Alive2 tests
+        * Integrating a human centric approach (tests and documentation of the LLVM's development process)
+
+---
+
+Prioritized Backlog
+===================
+
+This is a list of tasks and topics we have agreed to address in the near future, ranked by priority.
+
+1.  **Define Language & Standard for Qualification:** Finalize the decision on whether to qualify a specific version of the C or C++ standard.
+2.  **Research C Conformance Test Suites:** Identify and evaluate existing open-source or commercial C conformance test suites.
+3.  **Propose a Community RFC:** Draft a Request for Comments (RFC) to the LLVM community to formalize our group's goals and request support.
+4.  **Create a Public Wiki:** Establish a public-facing wiki or documentation site to track our progress and share findings.
+
+---
+
+Future Ideas & Unsorted Topics
+===============================
+
+This section is a parking lot for new ideas or topics that have been raised but are not yet being actively discussed or prioritized.
+
+* Investigating qualification for the LLVM linker (lld).
+* Exploring the use of static analysis tools (e.g., clang-tidy, Malleus) in a safety-critical context.
+* Documenting the process for a minimal, safety-critical build of Clang.
+
+---



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